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> Another point, which may matter to some people, is that while Migadu may be a Swiss company, the data centers where the mails are hosted were in France (this

by pqb 5y ago

> Another point, which may matter to some people, is that while Migadu may be a Swiss company, the data centers where the mails are hosted were in France (this was the case at least a year ago). So the situation is somewhat comparable (not entirely though) to Fastmail being an Australian company with data centers in the U.S. being used. > For those who want multi-domain email services for a lower (flat) price, look at mxroute. It's based out of the U.S. though, which may not be an option for people who want certain services outside Five Eyes jurisdictions. Weird speaking that, but I would be more of concerned of (an accidental) breach of privacy by some Migadu employee than some <country-name> burreau. Not saying about some typical script kiddie or some hacker-magician getting in possession of logins with passwords as leak. It is likely new on the market and I am tempted to say it has near-zero reputation for anyone looking for a private mail right now. Location do matter, but execution more.

newscracker 5y ago
> It is likely new on the market and I am tempted to say it has near-zero reputation for anyone looking for a private mail right now. GP here. Not sure if you meant Migadu in this sentence, but Migadu is not new in the email market. It has been around for several years (don't want to visit the website to look it up). I also don't believe that it has near-zero reputation.
- aesyondu 5y ago
  About page says 2014.
- pqb 5y ago
  Maybe "likely new" is a bad word to describe it. Comparing to many email providers I know or used 7 years is a pity. It have matured enough to consider it will stay for longer and it won't disappear soon, what has happened to many competitors on e-mail service market. I said "new", because both Migadu (since 2014) and even ProtonMail (since 2013) brought a lot of fresh air in last decade. I my observation for some reasons Migadu gained more attention among people looking to have an email with own domain name in last few years than in previous. When I also shared a link to Migadu to some friends, they also saying "oh, I hear about it for the first time". That's why I am saying "it is likely new on the market", it still have potential to gather new customers by advertising (on the contrary to ProtonMail, which seems media coverage helped a lot). > I also don't believe that it has near-zero reputation. Well, I guess I was too harsh but it is small company that already had various problems while operating (thankfully only downtime / lack of support) and it is hard to trust that no leak or breach will happen (and this is what makes me more concerned than some bureau). I also said "it has near-zero reputation for anyone looking for a private" - I don't generalize to whole service but only to private/safe message exchange. This service is perfectly fine for people in IT, startups or just personal emails but if I would be a person, who exchanges confidential documents I will stay away from Migadu. Why? They do not encrypt data on their servers [0][1], which is clearly opposite to what ProtonMail does [2]. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/ltcjc5/whats_your_review_of_migadu_email/ https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/ltcjc5/what... > 4. They don't encrypt anything other than SMTP, IMAP, HTTPS. You can encrypt your emails manually but they don't encrypt anything on their servers. They claim this is impractical and doesn't truly help with privacy or security. > 5. They don't force you to give them your real name or personal info, but there are no anonymous or cash payments. They only process payments via PayPal or Stripe though they claim to not keep any information about you that way. [1]: https://www.migadu.com/procon/ https://www.migadu.com/procon/ [2]: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/what-is-encrypted/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/what-is-encryp...

by pqb 5y ago

newscracker 5y ago

> It is likely new on the market and I am tempted to say it has near-zero reputation for anyone looking for a private mail right now. GP here. Not sure if you meant Migadu in this sentence, but Migadu is not new in the email market. It has been around for several years (don't want to visit the website to look it up). I also don't believe that it has near-zero reputation.

aesyondu 5y ago
About page says 2014.
pqb 5y ago
Maybe "likely new" is a bad word to describe it. Comparing to many email providers I know or used 7 years is a pity. It have matured enough to consider it will stay for longer and it won't disappear soon, what has happened to many competitors on e-mail service market. I said "new", because both Migadu (since 2014) and even ProtonMail (since 2013) brought a lot of fresh air in last decade. I my observation for some reasons Migadu gained more attention among people looking to have an email with own domain name in last few years than in previous. When I also shared a link to Migadu to some friends, they also saying "oh, I hear about it for the first time". That's why I am saying "it is likely new on the market", it still have potential to gather new customers by advertising (on the contrary to ProtonMail, which seems media coverage helped a lot). > I also don't believe that it has near-zero reputation. Well, I guess I was too harsh but it is small company that already had various problems while operating (thankfully only downtime / lack of support) and it is hard to trust that no leak or breach will happen (and this is what makes me more concerned than some bureau). I also said "it has near-zero reputation for anyone looking for a private" - I don't generalize to whole service but only to private/safe message exchange. This service is perfectly fine for people in IT, startups or just personal emails but if I would be a person, who exchanges confidential documents I will stay away from Migadu. Why? They do not encrypt data on their servers [0][1], which is clearly opposite to what ProtonMail does [2]. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/ltcjc5/whats_your_review_of_migadu_email/ https://www.reddit.com/r/privacytoolsIO/comments/ltcjc5/what... > 4. They don't encrypt anything other than SMTP, IMAP, HTTPS. You can encrypt your emails manually but they don't encrypt anything on their servers. They claim this is impractical and doesn't truly help with privacy or security. > 5. They don't force you to give them your real name or personal info, but there are no anonymous or cash payments. They only process payments via PayPal or Stripe though they claim to not keep any information about you that way. [1]: https://www.migadu.com/procon/ https://www.migadu.com/procon/ [2]: https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/what-is-encrypted/ https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/what-is-encryp...