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Side effects and permanent damage from getting covid also exist. You need to weight which one is more severe and higher risk. Would you rather die this year or

Side effects and permanent damage from getting covid also exist. You need to weight which one is more severe and higher risk. Would you rather die this year or in 10? Also don't assume you can avoid getting in contact covid.

yryan 5y ago
Your comment minus the third sentence.
- sschueller 5y ago
  I thought everything today is about FOMO and YOLO?
herbst 5y ago
To be fair. Without constant refreshing shots it's very likely you won't be protected in 10 years either way.
- anoncake 5y ago
  That's a rumour.
  - herbst 5y ago
    Pretty sure it isn't. Scientists always said it's going to be like the flu. And a a flu shot 10 years ago also has close to zero protection today Sure it could turn out different, but it seems more likely to be like that as far as I know
    - anoncake 5y ago
      No, they never did. Influenza is a family of viruses that mutates extraordinarily fast. Last year's flu vaccine isn't useless because your immune system already forgot how to make the antibodies, but because there are new flu viruses every year. The RNA vaccines at least specifically target the part of the Covid virus that makes it special compared to other coronaviruses. If that part mutates in a way that invalidates the protection caused by the vaccine, it almost certainly renders the virus harmless anyway. Even if the protection does expire, there is no reason to believe it happens at flu-like timescales. Of course if by (is that the right preposition btw?) "constant refreshing" you mean every decade or so, that is possible. There is also empirical evidence by now: - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01222-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01222-5 (protection against variants) - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2 (lasting immunity)
      - herbst 5y ago
        This is new to me, but I happily give it a go. Thanks for the links
      - miles 5y ago
        >> Scientists always said it's going to be like the flu > No, they never did. Dr. Anthony Fauci: Coronavirus Will Become ‘Seasonal’ Like The Flu https://www.blackenterprise.com/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-will-become-seasonal-like-the-flu/ https://www.blackenterprise.com/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus... During his guest spot on NBC News’ Meet the Press, Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist who serves as the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and medical advisor to the president, said that virus will become “seasonal.” Fauci: Coronavirus Vaccine Booster Shots Likely Needed https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-05-26/fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-booster-shots-likely-necessary https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-05-26/... "I don't anticipate that the durability of the vaccine protection is going to be infinite," Fauci told a Senate subcommittee. "It's just not. So I would imagine we will need, at some time, a booster."
        anoncake 5y ago
        Yes, it shares an unrelated property with the flu. "At some time" is not like "every year".
        herbst 5y ago
        I never said every year, as far as I've read into this I still think it's likely to assume that you won't be protected (well) after 10 years. No idea why you think it's a rumor
        anoncake 5y ago
        You said "like the flu". That means every year.
        5y ago

yryan 5y ago

Your comment minus the third sentence.

sschueller 5y ago
I thought everything today is about FOMO and YOLO?

herbst 5y ago

To be fair. Without constant refreshing shots it's very likely you won't be protected in 10 years either way.

anoncake 5y ago
That's a rumour.
- herbst 5y ago
  Pretty sure it isn't. Scientists always said it's going to be like the flu. And a a flu shot 10 years ago also has close to zero protection today Sure it could turn out different, but it seems more likely to be like that as far as I know
  - anoncake 5y ago
    No, they never did. Influenza is a family of viruses that mutates extraordinarily fast. Last year's flu vaccine isn't useless because your immune system already forgot how to make the antibodies, but because there are new flu viruses every year. The RNA vaccines at least specifically target the part of the Covid virus that makes it special compared to other coronaviruses. If that part mutates in a way that invalidates the protection caused by the vaccine, it almost certainly renders the virus harmless anyway. Even if the protection does expire, there is no reason to believe it happens at flu-like timescales. Of course if by (is that the right preposition btw?) "constant refreshing" you mean every decade or so, that is possible. There is also empirical evidence by now: - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01222-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01222-5 (protection against variants) - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2 (lasting immunity)
    - herbst 5y ago
      This is new to me, but I happily give it a go. Thanks for the links
    - miles 5y ago
      >> Scientists always said it's going to be like the flu > No, they never did. Dr. Anthony Fauci: Coronavirus Will Become ‘Seasonal’ Like The Flu https://www.blackenterprise.com/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-will-become-seasonal-like-the-flu/ https://www.blackenterprise.com/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus... During his guest spot on NBC News’ Meet the Press, Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist who serves as the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and medical advisor to the president, said that virus will become “seasonal.” Fauci: Coronavirus Vaccine Booster Shots Likely Needed https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-05-26/fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-booster-shots-likely-necessary https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-05-26/... "I don't anticipate that the durability of the vaccine protection is going to be infinite," Fauci told a Senate subcommittee. "It's just not. So I would imagine we will need, at some time, a booster."
      - anoncake 5y ago
        Yes, it shares an unrelated property with the flu. "At some time" is not like "every year".
        herbst 5y ago
        I never said every year, as far as I've read into this I still think it's likely to assume that you won't be protected (well) after 10 years. No idea why you think it's a rumor
        anoncake 5y ago
        You said "like the flu". That means every year.
        5y ago