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Are Covid Vaccines Riskier Than Advertised?
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- sschueller 5y agoSide effects and permanent damage from getting covid also exist. You need to weight which one is more severe and higher risk. Would you rather die this year or in 10? Also don't assume you can avoid getting in contact covid.
- yryan 5y agoYour comment minus the third sentence.
- sschueller 5y agoI thought everything today is about FOMO and YOLO?
- herbst 5y agoTo be fair. Without constant refreshing shots it's very likely you won't be protected in 10 years either way.
- anoncake 5y agoThat's a rumour.
- herbst 5y agoPretty sure it isn't. Scientists always said it's going to be like the flu. And a a flu shot 10 years ago also has close to zero protection today Sure it could turn out different, but it seems more likely to be like that as far as I know
- anoncake 5y agoNo, they never did. Influenza is a family of viruses that mutates extraordinarily fast. Last year's flu vaccine isn't useless because your immune system already forgot how to make the antibodies, but because there are new flu viruses every year. The RNA vaccines at least specifically target the part of the Covid virus that makes it special compared to other coronaviruses. If that part mutates in a way that invalidates the protection caused by the vaccine, it almost certainly renders the virus harmless anyway. Even if the protection does expire, there is no reason to believe it happens at flu-like timescales. Of course if by (is that the right preposition btw?) "constant refreshing" you mean every decade or so, that is possible. There is also empirical evidence by now: - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01222-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01222-5 (protection against variants) - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03738-2 (lasting immunity)
- herbst 5y agoThis is new to me, but I happily give it a go. Thanks for the links
- miles 5y ago>> Scientists always said it's going to be like the flu > No, they never did. Dr. Anthony Fauci: Coronavirus Will Become ‘Seasonal’ Like The Flu https://www.blackenterprise.com/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-will-become-seasonal-like-the-flu/ https://www.blackenterprise.com/dr-anthony-fauci-coronavirus... During his guest spot on NBC News’ Meet the Press, Dr. Anthony Fauci, an immunologist who serves as the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and medical advisor to the president, said that virus will become “seasonal.” Fauci: Coronavirus Vaccine Booster Shots Likely Needed https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-05-26/fauci-coronavirus-vaccine-booster-shots-likely-necessary https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-05-26/... "I don't anticipate that the durability of the vaccine protection is going to be infinite," Fauci told a Senate subcommittee. "It's just not. So I would imagine we will need, at some time, a booster."
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- yryan 5y agoTo answer the question, yes. The risks weren’t advertised.
- water8 5y agoFor both the disease and the cure.
- bigcorp-slave 5y ago“Not that the authorities will tell you” -> editorial in THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. You cannot make this shit up.
- yryan 5y agoTry reading and quoting past the headline.
- dehrmann 5y agoThey do seem riskier than most vaccines. The situation warranted emergency approval, but in a way, I hope the FDA doesn't grant them full approval because of either strong immune reactions or other side effects. It sends a signal that they're needed, but acknowledges risks. Giving them full approval is more likely to feed into the anti-vax narrative.
- greenyoda 5y agoArchive with full text: https://archive.ph/kZli9 https://archive.ph/kZli9
- arisAlexis 5y agoThe only relevant question is: are vaccines better than catching covid inevitable 100%? Does society benefit from them alltogetger even if there are small risk to th indivodual?