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When friends are in my car they almost always use the emergency mechanical handle instead of the electronic one and I always have to remember to show them how t

When friends are in my car they almost always use the emergency mechanical handle instead of the electronic one and I always have to remember to show them how to open the door the non-emergency way.

ncallaway 5y ago
Is there a downside to using the emergency handle? I'd generally prefer to use that as my standard way of getting out of the car. In the event of an emergency I'd rather have muscle memory for the emergency exit, rather than have to do something unusual.
- guhidalg 5y ago
  When you press the button, the window rolls down slightly before the door latch is opened. This prevents you from putting stress on the window when you push the door to open it. When you use the handle, the door latch opens and the window rolls down slightly and there’s a larger period of time where you can push the door and put stress on the window. So the danger with using the handle is that you _might_ damage the windows if you aggressively open the door, but the button will not.
  - freeone3000 5y ago
    The 2020 Dodge Challenger had the same problem due to a similar door design. They solved it by causing the mechanical action of the door open lever to also roll down the window slightly, and electronically rolled up the window when the door was closed.
    - userbinator 5y ago
      That sounds like an example of overengineering/making things more complex for little gain.
      - freeone3000 5y ago
        The easy solution that literally every other car uses is to have a piece of frame on top of the window as a part of the door. But that doesn't have the same aesthetic!
- pmorici 5y ago
  Originally they didn't want you to use the manual handle regularly but they added a software feature that rolled the window glass down a bit when you pull the handle and stopped warning not to use it unless it was an emergency.
  - jliptzin 5y ago
    Ah interesting, didn’t know that

When friends are in my car they almost always use the emergency mechanical handle instead of the electronic one and I always have to remember to show them how to open the door the non-emergency way.

ncallaway 5y ago

Is there a downside to using the emergency handle? I'd generally prefer to use that as my standard way of getting out of the car. In the event of an emergency I'd rather have muscle memory for the emergency exit, rather than have to do something unusual.

guhidalg 5y ago
When you press the button, the window rolls down slightly before the door latch is opened. This prevents you from putting stress on the window when you push the door to open it. When you use the handle, the door latch opens and the window rolls down slightly and there’s a larger period of time where you can push the door and put stress on the window. So the danger with using the handle is that you _might_ damage the windows if you aggressively open the door, but the button will not.
- freeone3000 5y ago
  The 2020 Dodge Challenger had the same problem due to a similar door design. They solved it by causing the mechanical action of the door open lever to also roll down the window slightly, and electronically rolled up the window when the door was closed.
  - userbinator 5y ago
    That sounds like an example of overengineering/making things more complex for little gain.
    - freeone3000 5y ago
      The easy solution that literally every other car uses is to have a piece of frame on top of the window as a part of the door. But that doesn't have the same aesthetic!
pmorici 5y ago
Originally they didn't want you to use the manual handle regularly but they added a software feature that rolled the window glass down a bit when you pull the handle and stopped warning not to use it unless it was an emergency.
- jliptzin 5y ago
  Ah interesting, didn’t know that