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It sucks more when your unlabeled, poorly packed batteries catch fire and take down cargo planes. It sucks even more when they take down passenger airlines, be

by Syonyk 5y ago

It sucks more when your unlabeled, poorly packed batteries catch fire and take down cargo planes. It sucks even more when they take down passenger airlines, because a lot of mail is shipped in the bellies of passenger flights - and if it's not labeled as prohibited for air transport, you have no idea how it gets from A to B. Different carriers have different regulations, and you can legally ship small lithium cells (at least on some carriers) without a lot of restrictions. There are also different restrictions for "batteries in equipment" versus bare packs or cells. But places like Hobby King tend to just shove stuff in a box and hope it doesn't catch fire. The FAA keeps a list... https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/resources/lithium_batteries/media/Battery_incident_chart.pdf https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/resources/lithium_batteries/media... They're really not something to treat as casually as an awful lot of people treat them. :/

kortilla 5y ago
> It sucks even more when they take down passenger airlines They haven’t ever been known to “take down” a.k.a crash a passenger airline: https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/resources/lithium_batteries/media/Battery_incident_chart.pdf https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/resources/lithium_batteries/media...
- Syonyk 5y ago
  The South Africa 295 crash was, at least possibly, a cargo fire from lithium batteries - though they never did figure out exactly what caused it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Airways_Flight_295 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Airways_Flight_2... My point there is mostly that USPS mail and such is carried on passenger flights, and I have a very real problem with unlabeled scrap grade lithium cells being carried without proper markings on anything with passengers, which is exactly what Hobby King's behaviors lead to. That stuff, if it goes by air at all (I'd argue it probably shouldn't), should go by cargo aircraft only.

by Syonyk 5y ago

kortilla 5y ago

> It sucks even more when they take down passenger airlines They haven’t ever been known to “take down” a.k.a crash a passenger airline: https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/resources/lithium_batteries/media/Battery_incident_chart.pdf https://www.faa.gov/hazmat/resources/lithium_batteries/media...

Syonyk 5y ago
The South Africa 295 crash was, at least possibly, a cargo fire from lithium batteries - though they never did figure out exactly what caused it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Airways_Flight_295 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Airways_Flight_2... My point there is mostly that USPS mail and such is carried on passenger flights, and I have a very real problem with unlabeled scrap grade lithium cells being carried without proper markings on anything with passengers, which is exactly what Hobby King's behaviors lead to. That stuff, if it goes by air at all (I'd argue it probably shouldn't), should go by cargo aircraft only.