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Obviously higher speed translates into higher risk. But given that less than 10% of all accidents resulting in bodily injuries happen on Autobahns, it looks li

by pintxo 5y ago

Obviously higher speed translates into higher risk. But given that less than 10% of all accidents resulting in bodily injuries happen on Autobahns, it looks like there are for more important factors to consider than speed alone. https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Verkehrsunfaelle/Tabellen/polizeilich-erfasste-unfaelle.html;jsessionid=80FF932D42A4B51DDA631B4F6CEB403B.live722 https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Gesellschaft-Umwelt/Verkeh...

dathinab 5y ago
Just because other parts of the streets are "less safe" (in given statistics) doesn't mean you can't or should not improve the situations in other places if it's simple, straight forward and with little drawbacks. (Which is what IMHO it the more important part in the discussion, is a cap of 130 km/h to low? Should it be 160 km/h?) As a side note the statistics about accidents is not the relevant one in this discussion. The relevant on would be deadly accidents on highway vs. city vs. country side as well as deadly accidents on highway involving speeds > 130km/h and not involving speeds > 130 km/h. And yes, if we look at deadly accidents of PKWs (~= normal car, i.e. not bus, truck, bike, etc.) then our country side streets are basically death traps.. But then if we consider they in Germany country side streets are often: Less maintained, seamed with trees, areas where wild animals might cross, used by drunk people going home at 3am, used by farming vehicles, used by people and bicycles, etc. it's not that surprising. And honestly there are a lot of country side roads where due to the road being worn down the maximal speed allowed is completely ridiculous. Edit: Uhm, How did someone one a bicycle die in a traffic accident on a highway? ??
- zaarn 5y ago
  I've seen more than a few instances of bikers thinking the side of the autobahn is a great place to take the fast route to some destination. Probably their GPS navigation or them being rather light on the entire "being alive" thing.

by pintxo 5y ago

dathinab 5y ago

Just because other parts of the streets are "less safe" (in given statistics) doesn't mean you can't or should not improve the situations in other places if it's simple, straight forward and with little drawbacks. (Which is what IMHO it the more important part in the discussion, is a cap of 130 km/h to low? Should it be 160 km/h?) As a side note the statistics about accidents is not the relevant one in this discussion. The relevant on would be deadly accidents on highway vs. city vs. country side as well as deadly accidents on highway involving speeds > 130km/h and not involving speeds > 130 km/h. And yes, if we look at deadly accidents of PKWs (~= normal car, i.e. not bus, truck, bike, etc.) then our country side streets are basically death traps.. But then if we consider they in Germany country side streets are often: Less maintained, seamed with trees, areas where wild animals might cross, used by drunk people going home at 3am, used by farming vehicles, used by people and bicycles, etc. it's not that surprising. And honestly there are a lot of country side roads where due to the road being worn down the maximal speed allowed is completely ridiculous. Edit: Uhm, How did someone one a bicycle die in a traffic accident on a highway? ??

zaarn 5y ago
I've seen more than a few instances of bikers thinking the side of the autobahn is a great place to take the fast route to some destination. Probably their GPS navigation or them being rather light on the entire "being alive" thing.