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I own a small business, and have resolved to NEVER use any Intuit product. It's not very hard, and actually opens one up to possibilities that make life a lot e

I own a small business, and have resolved to NEVER use any Intuit product. It's not very hard, and actually opens one up to possibilities that make life a lot easier.

slownews45 5y ago
Very likely you will be using them in some form I'm afraid. Hard to avoid - especially for smaller businesses. For example, since many other small businesses use them, you may be paying your invoices through their payment portal for bills sent to you. They've done deals with bill.com (which bought divvy for 2.5B). Your payroll provider may provide payroll information to assist employees with their intuit turbotax filings.
- anm89 5y ago
  I think you are willfully misinterpreting what the parent said. Not paying them directly for services is very different than never engaging in transactions which involve something as a third-party. And it means this person isn't directly paying them to do anything.
  - slownews45 5y ago
    They said very simply that they "have resolved to NEVER use any Intuit product". I just took that to mean what they said and pointed out it's hard to avoid using these bigger players software.
lucasisola 5y ago
What do you use for accounting software?
- neilv 5y ago
  If anyone has a one-person small business without payroll, I liked GnuCash for my consulting work (including abusing the invoicing system for time-tracking). https://gnucash.org/ https://gnucash.org/ If I had to do payroll, I'd probably try to find a SaaS that I could contractually lock to strict confidentiality. I wouldn't be in the business of saving pennies by selling out my employees' privacy.
  - KirillPanov 5y ago
    > If I had to do payroll... that I could contractually lock to strict confidentiality. This does not even remotely exist. Getting anybody to do payroll for you means signing reams and reams of fine print where you absolve them, indemnify them, hold them harmless, and agree to bear their children. Well, maybe not the last part. It's a nightmare. It's somewhat expectable though. They're selling a service to people who don't want to deal with red tape (i.e. payroll) and read fine print (which is basically what doing your own payroll amounts to -- a lot of that). So their customer base is strongly self-selected for being susceptible to fine-print abuse.
    - neilv 5y ago
      Thanks. That explanation makes a lot of sense. :(
- callmeal 5y ago
  Some of my friends use Xero.
- beams_of_light 5y ago
  Gusto. They automatically pay my taxes, employees, do all the HRIS functions, and file forms with government entities. This is my first year with them, but so far, I'm pretty happy.

I own a small business, and have resolved to NEVER use any Intuit product. It's not very hard, and actually opens one up to possibilities that make life a lot easier.

slownews45 5y ago

Very likely you will be using them in some form I'm afraid. Hard to avoid - especially for smaller businesses. For example, since many other small businesses use them, you may be paying your invoices through their payment portal for bills sent to you. They've done deals with bill.com (which bought divvy for 2.5B). Your payroll provider may provide payroll information to assist employees with their intuit turbotax filings.

anm89 5y ago
I think you are willfully misinterpreting what the parent said. Not paying them directly for services is very different than never engaging in transactions which involve something as a third-party. And it means this person isn't directly paying them to do anything.
- slownews45 5y ago
  They said very simply that they "have resolved to NEVER use any Intuit product". I just took that to mean what they said and pointed out it's hard to avoid using these bigger players software.

lucasisola 5y ago

What do you use for accounting software?

neilv 5y ago
If anyone has a one-person small business without payroll, I liked GnuCash for my consulting work (including abusing the invoicing system for time-tracking). https://gnucash.org/ https://gnucash.org/ If I had to do payroll, I'd probably try to find a SaaS that I could contractually lock to strict confidentiality. I wouldn't be in the business of saving pennies by selling out my employees' privacy.
- KirillPanov 5y ago
  > If I had to do payroll... that I could contractually lock to strict confidentiality. This does not even remotely exist. Getting anybody to do payroll for you means signing reams and reams of fine print where you absolve them, indemnify them, hold them harmless, and agree to bear their children. Well, maybe not the last part. It's a nightmare. It's somewhat expectable though. They're selling a service to people who don't want to deal with red tape (i.e. payroll) and read fine print (which is basically what doing your own payroll amounts to -- a lot of that). So their customer base is strongly self-selected for being susceptible to fine-print abuse.
  - neilv 5y ago
    Thanks. That explanation makes a lot of sense. :(
callmeal 5y ago
Some of my friends use Xero.
beams_of_light 5y ago
Gusto. They automatically pay my taxes, employees, do all the HRIS functions, and file forms with government entities. This is my first year with them, but so far, I'm pretty happy.