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Former Trump aide Jason Miller to launch new social app “Gettr”

34 points by vinceleo 5y ago

nycistacetobe 5y ago
Is it true Jack Dorsey is a pedophile?
webwielder2 5y ago
Was the "Grabem" domain taken?
- senectus1 5y ago
  that was exactly where my mind went as well.
qntty 5y ago
> The app, which is in beta testing, appears in the Apple App Store and is described as “a non-bias social network for people all over the world.” Reminds me of this koan: In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. “What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said. Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher. “So that the room will be empty.” At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.
- deleted 5y ago
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- meowface 5y ago
  Side note, but what's with the trend of people saying/spelling "biased" as "bias"? Is it just because the "-sed" in "biased" kind of blends together when pronounced / is awkward to clearly separate, so eventually some people just think that's what the word is? (I know a lot of words across many/all languages develop that way, so not really complaining, but when you're in the midst of it it feels a bit weird.)
  - jimmygrapes 5y ago
    It's exactly that. Lack of understanding the structure of the language. Same as "should of" - it is learning language by ear rather than by reading (or by underlying principle).
  - lioeters 5y ago
    The use of the word "bias" as an adjective there is technically incorrect. I've only seen it just now in the phrase "non-bias social network" - but I hope it does not catch on. > Bias vs. Biased > In recent years, we have seen more evidence of the adjectival bias in constructions like “a bias news program” instead of the more usual “a biased news program.” > The reason is likely because of aural confusion: the -ed of biased may be filtered out by hearers, which means that bias and biased can sound similar in the context of normal speech. > They are not interchangeable, however. The adjective that means “exhibited or characterized by an unreasoned judgment” is biased (“a biased news story”). There is an adjective bias, but it means “diagonal” and is used only of fabrics (“a bias cut across the fabric”). https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias#note-1-anchor https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias#note-1-ancho...
    - meowface 5y ago
      >There is an adjective bias, but it means “diagonal” and is used only of fabrics (“a bias cut across the fabric”). Ah, interesting; didn't know about that particular definition.
    - mc32 5y ago
      Also the old bias ply tires on trucks too... (as in not radial)
    - legerdemain 5y ago
      I mean, the most literal meaning of "a bias" is "a slant," which is where you get terms like "bias tape" and "bias cut." From this literal sense of "slant," you get the figurative sense of "inclination" or "preferential treatment." This meaning appears in quotations hundreds of years old. Finally, as "biased" stops being a fancy newspaper word and enters the popular lexicon, it gets subjected to regular pronunciation tendencies. And one of those tendencies is the simplification and elimination of -d at the ends of words. A lot of people in the US pronounce "hand me that" as "hammy that," "send me an email" as "simmy an email," and so on. So it's not surprising that saying and writing "bias" instead of "biased" is popular.
SQueeeeeL 5y ago
I wish I had any kind of celebrity in the right wing. Like Jason Miller will probably be set for retirement off of this one stunt, maybe he can even write a book and go on tour. People from these circles basically have a direct line to the wallet of most people over 50 in America; anyone have ideas for how we can get in on this hustle?
- tenebrisalietum 5y ago
  It's not like what right wing celebrities are doing is a secret. One could imitate them, but I'm sure the current celebrities will not enjoy the competition. Begin by maybe getting the domain name "squeeeeeelreport.com", installing Wordpress, put some Christian and American flag paraphernalia up there as well. Then repost articles but comment on it as though you were one of them. Don't forget to pepper each post title with SLAMS and DESTORYS and HAPPENING. Downvoters: Am I wrong?
  - jimmygrapes 5y ago
    The part you're missing is claiming to have insider anonymous sources (see also left wing "sources familiar with the thinking of [subject]") who will release the information to us either at the perfect time in the future, or through an encrypted "drop" in "the block chain"
- chipuni 5y ago
  Easy. Tell people that everything from when they were young is "right" and that everything new in the last n years is "wrong". You won't even need to do much research. Hand around people of the age that you're targeting, and just parrot their opinions. (WARNING: This doesn't work if the people you hang around are perpetual learners and constantly challenge themselves. If they're the kind of person who takes language classes "for fun", run away -- their opinions will have nothing to do with your target.)
- handrous 5y ago
  Step 1, for the highest likelihood of success, is to get into the circle of someone pretty high-up the chain already, or otherwise to get someone with an audience to hand you a megaphone, metaphorically speaking. Beware that navigating your way up that chain may be... cut-throat, and you're more likely to end up overworked and exploited or tossed aside for convenience than joining others on the good side of the grift. Otherwise, invent a character you think right-wingers would like and play the character on YouTube or similar. See how it goes. Low-cost, might work.
bitxbitxbitcoin 5y ago
As in Gettr done?
aaronbrethorst 5y ago
Ah yes, Jason Miller: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/gizmodo-beats-jason-miller-defamation-lawsuit-abortion-pill-story-1235101/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/giz...
- meowface 5y ago
  Summary of the allegation for anyone who doesn't want to click: >The court filing in question stated that Delgado had been informed that Miller had an affair with a “Jane Doe”; that this other woman became pregnant; that shortly thereafter, Miller visited the woman’s apartment with a smoothie; and that unbeknownst to Jane Doe, the smoothie contained an abortion pill, which induced an abortion. >Krueger’s article reads, in part, “Additionally, the court documents claim, when the woman found out she was pregnant, Miller surreptitiously dosed her with an abortion pill without her knowledge, leading, the woman claims, to the pregnancy’s termination and nearly her death.”
  - watertom 5y ago
    ah, so he's a real republican. Holier than thou in public, worse than the devil in private.
    - meowface 5y ago
      I'm not a Republican, but 1) that doesn't seem relevant and just seems like needlessly injected political vitriol, and 2) there's no shortage of either Democrats or Republicans who fit that category.
  - undfg 5y ago
    If a woman can choose to abort whenever she desires, so can the impregnating man make her abort.
lalaland1125 5y ago
A couple of interesting things about this new product: 1. This is an "source available" project, they published with sourcemaps on: https://twitter.com/adgodev/status/1410667547335217169 https://twitter.com/adgodev/status/1410667547335217169 2. They copy a lot of content (images + posts) from Twitter itself. For example, they hotlink images from Twitter: https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1410654138921279499 https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1410654138921279499 3. They will be enforcing moderation practices to remove "objectionable material of any kind" per their user agreement.
smnrchrds 5y ago
> Gettr It must be written in Java. Does it come bundled with a Settr app?
- legerdemain 5y ago
  Did you mean Jva?
romwell 5y ago
TL;DR: Trumpists are going to build their own Twitter, with Q and former president.
- alkonaut 5y ago
  …over and over again
deleted 5y ago
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jdgoesmarching 5y ago
Gettr? I just met’r!
nonnpc 5y ago
It's amusing reading all the leftist comments here.
- lapp0 5y ago
  Imagine being so fragile as to believe that anyone who agrees with the objective truth that Trump and his ilk are proto-fash trash must be a radical leftist and your sworn enemy. Get your head out of the propaganda machine's bunghole.
  - nonnpc 5y ago
    The vast majority of the population are NPCs awaiting their automatic firmware updates. You sound like you're fully up to date, godspeed.
    - McGruff 5y ago
      Unperson and other `The vast majority of the population`. Hard to NOT SEE that coming. nonnpc is a god among troggs, for sure.
    - tqx 5y ago
      I haven't seen someone use "NPCs" unironically in this context since...2018? I thought it was just used now to make fun of how unoriginal the right is. Do you still say "cuck" too?!
      - lapp0 5y ago
        Also probably believes in "wokists" and "cancel culture". All manner of dumbed down newspeak that is very characteristic of fascists.
      - ta2164 5y ago
        "Calling leftists NPCs is unoriginal, so we're going to call right-wingers NPCs!" No u. The reason you haven't seen "cuck" much is because it's been auto-modded on reddit for years now, and comments using it typically get [flagged] here on HN.
codq 5y ago
Maddox posted some screen shots, if you’re interested in how it’s going: https://twitter.com/maddoxrules/status/1410673707450654721?s=21 https://twitter.com/maddoxrules/status/1410673707450654721?s...
- jimmygrapes 5y ago
  tbh I'm more surprised that Maddox is still around
tibbydudeza 5y ago
graber was probably used already.
VivaCascadia 5y ago
For those curious, it's also up on the Google Play Store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gettr.gettr&hl=en_US&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gettr.gett...
colesantiago 5y ago
well, I mean, at least they are building their own tech and their own platforms I guess...
EarlKing 5y ago
So... is this Grindr for conservatives?
- lapp0 5y ago
  You can even specify your favorite kinks such as: incest, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, and lizard people cosplay.
  - quenix 5y ago
    This comment gave me a chuckle, but I don’t think it will last very long on HN ;-)
    - lapp0 5y ago
      's ok, I'll take one for the team
alkonaut 5y ago
I predict it will do about as well as Parler or Gab. Meaning: it’ll burn money from deep pockets for political motives but never make a profit unless it becomes part of some campaign grifting scheme. No one can afford to moderate a social network that attracts a small group of people requiring a disproportionate amount of moderation. Moderate enough and it’s both too expensive and not seen as “free speech” enough by the target audience. Moderate too little and you’ll expose yourself to legal risk and you’ll struggle to find hosting. We have seen this before.
orf 5y ago
Oh boy, I can’t wait for the detailed and nuanced discussion on gender identity and marginalized communities!
- krapp 5y ago
  Finally, a place on the internet where the voice of the oppressed white male establishment can be heard!
  - simonh 5y ago
    Well, they say it will be non-biased, so I think the suggestion is to spam it with woke, LBTQ, pro-BLM content while it's still trying to get traction.
tmp_anon_22 5y ago
They store passwords client-side among other gems. Completely amateur. [1]: https://twitter.com/adgodev/ https://twitter.com/adgodev/
lapp0 5y ago
Well, that didn't take long: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacker-dumps-private-info-of-pro-trump-gettr-social-network-members/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacker-dumps-...

34 points by vinceleo 5y ago

nycistacetobe 5y ago

Is it true Jack Dorsey is a pedophile?

webwielder2 5y ago

Was the "Grabem" domain taken?

senectus1 5y ago
that was exactly where my mind went as well.

qntty 5y ago

> The app, which is in beta testing, appears in the Apple App Store and is described as “a non-bias social network for people all over the world.” Reminds me of this koan: In the days when Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6. “What are you doing?”, asked Minsky. “I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-Tac-Toe” Sussman replied. “Why is the net wired randomly?”, asked Minsky. “I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play”, Sussman said. Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher. “So that the room will be empty.” At that moment, Sussman was enlightened.

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meowface 5y ago
Side note, but what's with the trend of people saying/spelling "biased" as "bias"? Is it just because the "-sed" in "biased" kind of blends together when pronounced / is awkward to clearly separate, so eventually some people just think that's what the word is? (I know a lot of words across many/all languages develop that way, so not really complaining, but when you're in the midst of it it feels a bit weird.)
- jimmygrapes 5y ago
  It's exactly that. Lack of understanding the structure of the language. Same as "should of" - it is learning language by ear rather than by reading (or by underlying principle).
- lioeters 5y ago
  The use of the word "bias" as an adjective there is technically incorrect. I've only seen it just now in the phrase "non-bias social network" - but I hope it does not catch on. > Bias vs. Biased > In recent years, we have seen more evidence of the adjectival bias in constructions like “a bias news program” instead of the more usual “a biased news program.” > The reason is likely because of aural confusion: the -ed of biased may be filtered out by hearers, which means that bias and biased can sound similar in the context of normal speech. > They are not interchangeable, however. The adjective that means “exhibited or characterized by an unreasoned judgment” is biased (“a biased news story”). There is an adjective bias, but it means “diagonal” and is used only of fabrics (“a bias cut across the fabric”). https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias#note-1-anchor https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias#note-1-ancho...
  - meowface 5y ago
    >There is an adjective bias, but it means “diagonal” and is used only of fabrics (“a bias cut across the fabric”). Ah, interesting; didn't know about that particular definition.
  - mc32 5y ago
    Also the old bias ply tires on trucks too... (as in not radial)
  - legerdemain 5y ago
    I mean, the most literal meaning of "a bias" is "a slant," which is where you get terms like "bias tape" and "bias cut." From this literal sense of "slant," you get the figurative sense of "inclination" or "preferential treatment." This meaning appears in quotations hundreds of years old. Finally, as "biased" stops being a fancy newspaper word and enters the popular lexicon, it gets subjected to regular pronunciation tendencies. And one of those tendencies is the simplification and elimination of -d at the ends of words. A lot of people in the US pronounce "hand me that" as "hammy that," "send me an email" as "simmy an email," and so on. So it's not surprising that saying and writing "bias" instead of "biased" is popular.

SQueeeeeL 5y ago

I wish I had any kind of celebrity in the right wing. Like Jason Miller will probably be set for retirement off of this one stunt, maybe he can even write a book and go on tour. People from these circles basically have a direct line to the wallet of most people over 50 in America; anyone have ideas for how we can get in on this hustle?

tenebrisalietum 5y ago
It's not like what right wing celebrities are doing is a secret. One could imitate them, but I'm sure the current celebrities will not enjoy the competition. Begin by maybe getting the domain name "squeeeeeelreport.com", installing Wordpress, put some Christian and American flag paraphernalia up there as well. Then repost articles but comment on it as though you were one of them. Don't forget to pepper each post title with SLAMS and DESTORYS and HAPPENING. Downvoters: Am I wrong?
- jimmygrapes 5y ago
  The part you're missing is claiming to have insider anonymous sources (see also left wing "sources familiar with the thinking of [subject]") who will release the information to us either at the perfect time in the future, or through an encrypted "drop" in "the block chain"
chipuni 5y ago
Easy. Tell people that everything from when they were young is "right" and that everything new in the last n years is "wrong". You won't even need to do much research. Hand around people of the age that you're targeting, and just parrot their opinions. (WARNING: This doesn't work if the people you hang around are perpetual learners and constantly challenge themselves. If they're the kind of person who takes language classes "for fun", run away -- their opinions will have nothing to do with your target.)
handrous 5y ago
Step 1, for the highest likelihood of success, is to get into the circle of someone pretty high-up the chain already, or otherwise to get someone with an audience to hand you a megaphone, metaphorically speaking. Beware that navigating your way up that chain may be... cut-throat, and you're more likely to end up overworked and exploited or tossed aside for convenience than joining others on the good side of the grift. Otherwise, invent a character you think right-wingers would like and play the character on YouTube or similar. See how it goes. Low-cost, might work.

bitxbitxbitcoin 5y ago

As in Gettr done?

aaronbrethorst 5y ago

Ah yes, Jason Miller: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/gizmodo-beats-jason-miller-defamation-lawsuit-abortion-pill-story-1235101/ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/giz...

meowface 5y ago
Summary of the allegation for anyone who doesn't want to click: >The court filing in question stated that Delgado had been informed that Miller had an affair with a “Jane Doe”; that this other woman became pregnant; that shortly thereafter, Miller visited the woman’s apartment with a smoothie; and that unbeknownst to Jane Doe, the smoothie contained an abortion pill, which induced an abortion. >Krueger’s article reads, in part, “Additionally, the court documents claim, when the woman found out she was pregnant, Miller surreptitiously dosed her with an abortion pill without her knowledge, leading, the woman claims, to the pregnancy’s termination and nearly her death.”
- watertom 5y ago
  ah, so he's a real republican. Holier than thou in public, worse than the devil in private.
  - meowface 5y ago
    I'm not a Republican, but 1) that doesn't seem relevant and just seems like needlessly injected political vitriol, and 2) there's no shortage of either Democrats or Republicans who fit that category.
- undfg 5y ago
  If a woman can choose to abort whenever she desires, so can the impregnating man make her abort.

lalaland1125 5y ago

A couple of interesting things about this new product: 1. This is an "source available" project, they published with sourcemaps on: https://twitter.com/adgodev/status/1410667547335217169 https://twitter.com/adgodev/status/1410667547335217169 2. They copy a lot of content (images + posts) from Twitter itself. For example, they hotlink images from Twitter: https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1410654138921279499 https://twitter.com/z3dster/status/1410654138921279499 3. They will be enforcing moderation practices to remove "objectionable material of any kind" per their user agreement.

smnrchrds 5y ago

> Gettr It must be written in Java. Does it come bundled with a Settr app?

legerdemain 5y ago
Did you mean Jva?

romwell 5y ago

TL;DR: Trumpists are going to build their own Twitter, with Q and former president.

alkonaut 5y ago
…over and over again

deleted 5y ago

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jdgoesmarching 5y ago

Gettr? I just met’r!

nonnpc 5y ago

It's amusing reading all the leftist comments here.

lapp0 5y ago
Imagine being so fragile as to believe that anyone who agrees with the objective truth that Trump and his ilk are proto-fash trash must be a radical leftist and your sworn enemy. Get your head out of the propaganda machine's bunghole.
- nonnpc 5y ago
  The vast majority of the population are NPCs awaiting their automatic firmware updates. You sound like you're fully up to date, godspeed.
  - McGruff 5y ago
    Unperson and other `The vast majority of the population`. Hard to NOT SEE that coming. nonnpc is a god among troggs, for sure.
  - tqx 5y ago
    I haven't seen someone use "NPCs" unironically in this context since...2018? I thought it was just used now to make fun of how unoriginal the right is. Do you still say "cuck" too?!
    - lapp0 5y ago
      Also probably believes in "wokists" and "cancel culture". All manner of dumbed down newspeak that is very characteristic of fascists.
    - ta2164 5y ago
      "Calling leftists NPCs is unoriginal, so we're going to call right-wingers NPCs!" No u. The reason you haven't seen "cuck" much is because it's been auto-modded on reddit for years now, and comments using it typically get [flagged] here on HN.

codq 5y ago

Maddox posted some screen shots, if you’re interested in how it’s going: https://twitter.com/maddoxrules/status/1410673707450654721?s=21 https://twitter.com/maddoxrules/status/1410673707450654721?s...

jimmygrapes 5y ago
tbh I'm more surprised that Maddox is still around

tibbydudeza 5y ago

graber was probably used already.

VivaCascadia 5y ago

For those curious, it's also up on the Google Play Store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gettr.gettr&hl=en_US&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gettr.gett...

colesantiago 5y ago

well, I mean, at least they are building their own tech and their own platforms I guess...

EarlKing 5y ago

So... is this Grindr for conservatives?

lapp0 5y ago
You can even specify your favorite kinks such as: incest, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps, and lizard people cosplay.
- quenix 5y ago
  This comment gave me a chuckle, but I don’t think it will last very long on HN ;-)
  - lapp0 5y ago
    's ok, I'll take one for the team

alkonaut 5y ago

I predict it will do about as well as Parler or Gab. Meaning: it’ll burn money from deep pockets for political motives but never make a profit unless it becomes part of some campaign grifting scheme. No one can afford to moderate a social network that attracts a small group of people requiring a disproportionate amount of moderation. Moderate enough and it’s both too expensive and not seen as “free speech” enough by the target audience. Moderate too little and you’ll expose yourself to legal risk and you’ll struggle to find hosting. We have seen this before.

orf 5y ago

Oh boy, I can’t wait for the detailed and nuanced discussion on gender identity and marginalized communities!

krapp 5y ago
Finally, a place on the internet where the voice of the oppressed white male establishment can be heard!
- simonh 5y ago
  Well, they say it will be non-biased, so I think the suggestion is to spam it with woke, LBTQ, pro-BLM content while it's still trying to get traction.

tmp_anon_22 5y ago

They store passwords client-side among other gems. Completely amateur. [1]: https://twitter.com/adgodev/ https://twitter.com/adgodev/

lapp0 5y ago

Well, that didn't take long: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacker-dumps-private-info-of-pro-trump-gettr-social-network-members/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hacker-dumps-...