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> the benefits of joining a union are more for salary negotiation, USA has no unions and the highest pay for software engineers.
by dominotw 5y ago
> the benefits of joining a union are more for salary negotiation,
USA has no unions and the highest pay for software engineers.
- triceratops 5y agoCorrelation != causation. American actors and athletes have unions. American actors and athletes are among the highest paid in the world.
- dominotw 5y agoI wasn't implying that lack of unions is the cause of high pay, just that unions are not a prerequisite.
- ngngngng 5y agoThe exception that proves the rule
- runarberg 5y agoPay isn’t everything. There is also sick leave, payed vacation time, parental leave, job safety and security, privacy guarantees etc. USA software engineers are lacking in all of these. Many countries in Europe have those labor benefits as national law and unions are more about enforcing these rights, and protecting the workers from violation of them.
- dominotw 5y ago> USA software engineers are lacking in all of these. My last two companies gave me 6 months each for parental leave. I also took a lot of sick time. Agree with vacation time though, could be better. > job safety and security, Job market in USA for engineers has been really good. Most software engineers i know have 'job safety' in a sense that they can find a job in a couple of weeks or couple of months at most. But randomly getting fired isn't super common from what i've seen.
- selfhoster11 5y agoThere are slim pickings for anyone who doesn't happen to be a skilled profession such as a software engineer.