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I also wonder what justifies the headcount when Change.org petitions are almost universally pointless and ineffectual?

• tablespoon 5y ago
  > I also wonder what justifies the headcount when Change.org petitions are almost universally pointless and ineffectual? In our world of capitalism, the only justification a product needs is that it sells. And sometimes things that don't work or don't work well are superior products, because then customers keep coming back for more to get their desired results.
• SamBam 5y ago
  The headcount is justified by the fact that it's a multimillion dollar for-profit corporation. The multimillion dollar aspect seems to be due to a number of factors, but a large part seems to be the absolutely-scammy "chip-in" request, where they ask petition-signers for money, clearly designed to make them feel like they are donating to the cause, but instead it's simply a promise to display the petition more prominently within the change.org website. I think it's basically a scam. https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/the-actual-reason-you-get-asked-to-chip-in-after-signing-a-petition-on-change-org-27b1f79c05fd https://medium.com/age-of-awareness/the-actual-reason-you-ge...
• JumpCrisscross 5y ago
  > Change.org petitions are almost universally pointless and ineffectual This isn't my experience. Yes, if you're using a Change.org petition to lobby POTUS, that's dumb. But for local politicos? University administrators? In other words, people sensitive to being publicly embarrassed? I've seen it work.
  • crackercrews 5y ago
    The issue with niche change.org petitions is that the numbers mean nothing. There's no way to prove that the signers are from the key population.
    • dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
      Of course. But the people who are publicly shamed and those surrounding them might not be aware of that.