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And then somebody could extort you to vote in certain way and remain at your side to make sure you comply... or steal your mail and vote for you.

vaksel 18y ago
if someone wants to fix the election its really not that hard under the current system either. Dead people and pets vote all the time. Same with absentee ballots. And if its 1 address, 1 SSN, 1 password at least the person will need a little bit more info to fix it. If they steal your mail they'll still need to know your date of birth and the social security #. And sure thats possible for 1-2 people, but do you realize how hard it would be to do it on the massive scale? I mean lets face it, voting is a pain in the ass, you usually end up voting when its rush hour, and you have to wait a long time to cast your vote. Something like 40% of the eligible voters even bother to vote. Shouldn't it be a priority to make voting easier?
- mynameishere 18y ago
  Dead people and pets vote all the time Yeah, zombie granny and fluffy's backing of John Kerry basically cancelled out our household vote.
jmatt 18y ago
And then somebody could extort you to vote in certain way and remain at your side to make sure you comply... or steal your mail and vote for you. How is this any different from voting using an absentee ballot? Those can be stolen, bought, etc. And I would imagine are less secure than your average secure website. The difference comes when an exploit is found. The worst case for internet voting is very very bad and could scale. The worst case with abseentee ballots - a mailman or election official steals some. And then somebody could extort you to vote in certain way and remain at your side to make sure you comply... Extortion and pressure can and is applied at voting locations all over today. My voting location is literally across the street from the Democratic local offices. It makes me very uncomfortable. They always have pollsters doing exit polls and the people in line are almost all Democrats. They are loud, argumentative... It's an all around bad experience. I think voting online would be great assuming someone solves the security problem (OTP through mail, etc, etc). And for the record I'm currently libertarian. I disagree with this sort of thing happening in neighborhood churches just as much as the VA across the from democratic headquarters. Though personally I've had no problems at churches. Maybe a bit uncomfortable but people were not speaking out and attacking people taking a non-democrat ballot (primaries).

vaksel 18y ago

if someone wants to fix the election its really not that hard under the current system either. Dead people and pets vote all the time. Same with absentee ballots. And if its 1 address, 1 SSN, 1 password at least the person will need a little bit more info to fix it. If they steal your mail they'll still need to know your date of birth and the social security #. And sure thats possible for 1-2 people, but do you realize how hard it would be to do it on the massive scale? I mean lets face it, voting is a pain in the ass, you usually end up voting when its rush hour, and you have to wait a long time to cast your vote. Something like 40% of the eligible voters even bother to vote. Shouldn't it be a priority to make voting easier?

mynameishere 18y ago
Dead people and pets vote all the time Yeah, zombie granny and fluffy's backing of John Kerry basically cancelled out our household vote.

jmatt 18y ago

And then somebody could extort you to vote in certain way and remain at your side to make sure you comply... or steal your mail and vote for you. How is this any different from voting using an absentee ballot? Those can be stolen, bought, etc. And I would imagine are less secure than your average secure website. The difference comes when an exploit is found. The worst case for internet voting is very very bad and could scale. The worst case with abseentee ballots - a mailman or election official steals some. And then somebody could extort you to vote in certain way and remain at your side to make sure you comply... Extortion and pressure can and is applied at voting locations all over today. My voting location is literally across the street from the Democratic local offices. It makes me very uncomfortable. They always have pollsters doing exit polls and the people in line are almost all Democrats. They are loud, argumentative... It's an all around bad experience. I think voting online would be great assuming someone solves the security problem (OTP through mail, etc, etc). And for the record I'm currently libertarian. I disagree with this sort of thing happening in neighborhood churches just as much as the VA across the from democratic headquarters. Though personally I've had no problems at churches. Maybe a bit uncomfortable but people were not speaking out and attacking people taking a non-democrat ballot (primaries).