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No, it doesn't. Unless that charity is a sociopathic wealth hoarder. Then it does apply and then your point is also moot.

• chrisseaton 5y ago
  You said 'Voters should be allowed to lobby' - but a charity isn't a voter. Other things that aren't voters but most people think should be able to lobby in a healthy democracy include unions.
  • oneplane 5y ago
    Exactly, I said 'Voters should be allowed to lobby'. Not 'exclusively'. I said that because you stated that I was say ing 'nobody should be allowed to lobby', which is also not what I was saying. It seems that you are constantly trying to make it fit your personal narrative. And even then, does it matter? The point is that voters, which is what the government exists for, should be the ones to assess what they want, not the sociopathic wealth hoarder with the most wealth. If you want to define an ultra specific scope around that, you can do that.
    • chrisseaton 5y ago
      If voters are allowed to lobby, then a voter who owns, is employed by, or is a customer of, or chooses to represent my company can lobby on my behalf... and that's actually what's happening anyway! Obviously a company as an abstract entity does not lobby. An individual human being lobbies. A voter.
      • oneplane 5y ago
        That's the problem, isn't it. Sociopathic wealth hoarders should not control the population, and any scheme in which they do it anyway is problematic. That includes delegation.