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Yeah that was always going to happen of course.. When you make an open network, it becomes a lot harder to stop this kind of thing from happening. It's somethin
by GekkePrutser 5y ago
Yeah that was always going to happen of course.. When you make an open network, it becomes a lot harder to stop this kind of thing from happening. It's something inherent in its very nature. When you're more open you're also more open to abuse. I'm surprised it took this long (which also says a lot of good things about the maturity of the users!)
I hope they don't have to tighten things down to the point of interfering with functionality because Matrix is excellent as it is.
On the other hand, on IRC which I also use a lot it's just a fact of life.. We just apply some minor workarounds such as +r channels, roll our eyes and move on with life. I'd much rather have a free open network with some spam than a curated one by big tech that's free of spam.
PS: Another thing I do foresee happening if Matrix really takes off is big tech datamining it. It's very hard to make a network open and yet hide as much metadata as you can, e.g. how many users are on which servers, who do they communicate with across the network etc. If some big tech entities control some of the servers it becomes really hard to keep that locked away. Of course Matrix's encryption will help but not for all metadata. Again I think it's something we'll have to mitigate rather than prevent outright.
- syzygyhack 5y agoThis is what Cwtch is after right? Doing away with metadata too. They posted here the other day.
- GekkePrutser 5y agoOh I missed that post, I will look for it, thanks! Good to know it's on the radar!
- nighthawk454 5y agoI think I found it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27643171 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27643171
- GekkePrutser 5y agoOh I thought this Cwtch was an extension to the matrix protocol to build barriers to metadata mining. One of the things I like about Matrix is its open nature and the many bridges. I would be less interested in yet something else. Especially because Matrix is pretty good at what it aims to do already.
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- kitkat_new 5y agoMatrix as well, see their P2P work: https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/06/introducing-the-pinecone-overlay-network https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/06/introducing-the-pinecone-...
- donkarma 5y agoIt didn't take this long, I've abused open registration before
- Avamander 5y ago> I'd much rather have a free open network with some spam than a curated one by big tech that's free of spam. I don't think there's anyone that can actually keep their system abuse-free. Things like Messenger certainly have a lot of spam.