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Haven't used it, but how representative/helpful are the replaced frames? I can imagine that would be something that would be very difficult to get right (even w

Haven't used it, but how representative/helpful are the replaced frames? I can imagine that would be something that would be very difficult to get right (even with the help of AI). My thinking is that with curated thumbs I can at least get a good idea of the author's intent (particularly when one's a relatively experienced regular YT user). I kinda thing targeting curated thumbnail selection is looking at the wrong cause: curated thumbnails don't cause clickbaity thumbnail choice, perverse commercial incentives do.

isoskeles 5y ago
A browser plug-in can only do so much. It can attempt to fix the symptoms of perverse commercial incentives. But I t cannot fix those underlying incentives.
- lucideer 5y ago
  100% agree, and not saying it should try. Just questioning the validity of the apparent benefits of this particular attempt at fixing symptoms.
hawski 5y ago
Far too often author's intent is to deceive. On better channels less so, but even then I can't stand those typical youtube thumbnails with exaggerated facial expressions and big titles. I now it works for them, but for me personally it makes the world a worse place. I also recognize, that if this extension would gain a major following authors would once again put those in video. With video previews it is also less of a concern.
- lucideer 5y ago
  My concern is mainly just missing stuff I may be interested in in favour of uninteresting videos because the luck of the draw picked a highly relevant/irrelevant frame. Yes this is a 1st-world problem but this is Youtube. I'd like to think I could select videos on title alone but if that's your route then just remove rather than replace thumbs (and text can still mislead). To put it another way: even if we agree the current thumbs are bad (annoying, misleading), are the replacements better (or just irrelevant). Most people like to judge things on intent, but intentionally bad is still better than unintentionally worse. And in the end, I can much more easily develop intuition to spot intentionally deceptive common human patterns than spotting unintentionally irrelevant random automated patterns.

isoskeles 5y ago

A browser plug-in can only do so much. It can attempt to fix the symptoms of perverse commercial incentives. But I t cannot fix those underlying incentives.

lucideer 5y ago
100% agree, and not saying it should try. Just questioning the validity of the apparent benefits of this particular attempt at fixing symptoms.

hawski 5y ago

Far too often author's intent is to deceive. On better channels less so, but even then I can't stand those typical youtube thumbnails with exaggerated facial expressions and big titles. I now it works for them, but for me personally it makes the world a worse place. I also recognize, that if this extension would gain a major following authors would once again put those in video. With video previews it is also less of a concern.

lucideer 5y ago
My concern is mainly just missing stuff I may be interested in in favour of uninteresting videos because the luck of the draw picked a highly relevant/irrelevant frame. Yes this is a 1st-world problem but this is Youtube. I'd like to think I could select videos on title alone but if that's your route then just remove rather than replace thumbs (and text can still mislead). To put it another way: even if we agree the current thumbs are bad (annoying, misleading), are the replacements better (or just irrelevant). Most people like to judge things on intent, but intentionally bad is still better than unintentionally worse. And in the end, I can much more easily develop intuition to spot intentionally deceptive common human patterns than spotting unintentionally irrelevant random automated patterns.