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Could we take a step back from the scepticism and acknowledge that maybe this is a sign of a company that is trying to change. Unlike google which actively chos

Could we take a step back from the scepticism and acknowledge that maybe this is a sign of a company that is trying to change. Unlike google which actively chose to be evil, maybe this a sign of change at Amazon leadership - realising the damage it's doing to their reputation. Amazon has huge issues to overcome in the near future. I have no doubt the quality issue with their products is going to reach boiling point in the same way it has with warehouse conditions. Let's see.

ekianjo 5y ago
> Could we take a step back from the scepticism and acknowledge that maybe this is a sign of a company that is trying to change. Could we take a step back and realize this is pure PR/HR speak to select/attract certain kind of candidates?
- browningstreet 5y ago
  I'm generally skeptical of Amazon, but it does have a new CEO who came from AWS, as opposed to.. say, the warehouse operation side of the business. Maybe, just maybe, the new CEO will care about higher principles just a little bit more than Jeff did.
  - datavirtue 5y ago
    Just like any non-founding CEO, this guy is on the ropes. If anything (numbers) slips he is gone immediately. So status quo and PR juking are the game. Jeff gets the praise for founding Amazon. This guy gets the blame if ANYTHING goes wrong. He may not even be able to control the company (see Jeff Immelt).
  - reducesuffering 5y ago
    No, Jassy's AWS has been notorious for brutal software engineering conditions. Worse than the rest of Amazon, which is already bottom 5% of companies ratings by their internal employees.
- lolsal 5y ago
  It can be both.
to11mtm 5y ago
Talk is cheap. As another example, One of Comcast's values is 'Doing the right thing and acting with integrity'. Both from my personal experiences as well as what we see in their other behaviors (Tweeting support for LGBTQ+ yet donating over 1mil to anti LGBTQ+ politicians since 2019, Absolutely kafkaesque fraud department policies, continuing the union-busting and liability-dodging layered contractor system...) one can draw their own conclusions as to whether it's PR fluff or not. This is also on the heels of the Teamsters announcing their intent to try and unionize Amazon. It smells reactionary to me.
gentleman11 5y ago
Judge peoples actions. Their words, from a pr department, what do they mean?

ekianjo 5y ago

> Could we take a step back from the scepticism and acknowledge that maybe this is a sign of a company that is trying to change. Could we take a step back and realize this is pure PR/HR speak to select/attract certain kind of candidates?

browningstreet 5y ago
I'm generally skeptical of Amazon, but it does have a new CEO who came from AWS, as opposed to.. say, the warehouse operation side of the business. Maybe, just maybe, the new CEO will care about higher principles just a little bit more than Jeff did.
- datavirtue 5y ago
  Just like any non-founding CEO, this guy is on the ropes. If anything (numbers) slips he is gone immediately. So status quo and PR juking are the game. Jeff gets the praise for founding Amazon. This guy gets the blame if ANYTHING goes wrong. He may not even be able to control the company (see Jeff Immelt).
- reducesuffering 5y ago
  No, Jassy's AWS has been notorious for brutal software engineering conditions. Worse than the rest of Amazon, which is already bottom 5% of companies ratings by their internal employees.
lolsal 5y ago
It can be both.

to11mtm 5y ago

Talk is cheap. As another example, One of Comcast's values is 'Doing the right thing and acting with integrity'. Both from my personal experiences as well as what we see in their other behaviors (Tweeting support for LGBTQ+ yet donating over 1mil to anti LGBTQ+ politicians since 2019, Absolutely kafkaesque fraud department policies, continuing the union-busting and liability-dodging layered contractor system...) one can draw their own conclusions as to whether it's PR fluff or not. This is also on the heels of the Teamsters announcing their intent to try and unionize Amazon. It smells reactionary to me.

gentleman11 5y ago

Judge peoples actions. Their words, from a pr department, what do they mean?