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Cmon this is hacker news not 'art is ineffable news'. Yes the point of things like this is to help understand the framework that underlies (edit: most western)
by codeulike 5y ago
Cmon this is hacker news not 'art is ineffable news'.
Yes the point of things like this is to help understand the framework that underlies (edit: most western) music. There's actually a lot of structure to western music that is obfuscated by the completely bonkers terminology. I find articles like this very intersting and useful, and there's no way you'll catch me listeneing to stockhausen.
For example the explanation of modes vs scales in this article is the clearest I've ever seen.
- tsimionescu 5y agoI thing the point of the GP is to remind us that this is not 'the framework that underlies music', it is 'a framework that is used to structure much European/American-inspired music'. That is, there are cultures that formalize or structure their music differently, and there are properties of music that are outside of these models. There are even many popular or niche songs that work against some aspects of this structure. And all this is not about the ineffability of art, it is simply about not confusing the map for the territory. Many people who wax poetic about the mathematical properties of music, and start deep theories about the human brain and our enjoyment of music from there, tend to forget that the mathematics are describing a particular formal system that some choose to use when making music; they are not mathematical properties of anything that a human being would recognize as pleasant music.
- codeulike 5y agoMany people ... tend to forget ... I dont think thats true, especially on HN. We're perfectly capable of being interested in the mathy bits without losing sight of the arty bits e.g. the OP who wrote that very analytical piece about every possible scale composes music like this https://ianring.bandcamp.com https://ianring.bandcamp.com