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> giant waste of my time and energy Telling people not to go to school is bad life advice. > I was [in school and thriving] I don't, would you go into the ti

> giant waste of my time and energy Telling people not to go to school is bad life advice. > I was [in school and thriving] I don't, would you go into the time machine and like, not go to school, as a young person?

manmal 5y ago
There are other types of schooling which are more tailored to the individual. You won’t find them in a public school though, with one teacher schooling 25-30 kids. It’s just not possible to cater to every individual‘s needs in that context. The only way to get more individual schooling is to have well-off parents who send you to a school with smaller classes, and ideally with a more relaxed schedule, like Montessori (I personally find them a little cult-like, there are other approaches too). Or, get born in Finland or Sweden, they invest heavily into their public education system, and it shows.
- bedobi 5y ago
  Haha hate to break your bubble but I am born, raised and schooled in Sweden :) I don't live there anymore though, I left as soon as I could, can't stand the place, but that's kind of a side note, lol. Finland and Sweden's schooling systems are very, very different. I wouldn't have enjoyed the Finnish one either, just saying.
  - gizmondo 5y ago
    It must be weird to read all the fetishization of Scandinavia here? :)
    - bedobi 5y ago
      For sure! It gets talked about every now and then, this one generated a bunch https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24886659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24886659
      - manmal 5y ago
        I‘m not fetishizing. There is lots of hard evidence that at least the Swedish model is superior to what eg Central European countries have. Our country sends delegations to Sweden to analyze what they are doing better, and maybe get inspired by that. Sorry for throwing Finland into the mix, I probably misremembered.
        bedobi 5y ago
        Apologies, I didn't mean to say you were fetishizing, just that there's a lot of Scandinavia fetishizing on HN (and everywhere else for that matter) in general, haha
  - manmal 5y ago
    You should have a look what public schooling looks like in most other countries, you‘d be surprised how good you had it. The fact that you dreaded school proves nothing.
bedobi 5y ago
> would you go into the time machine and like, not go to school, as a young person? Kind of, yeah. I'm not saying school is 100% useless, but I like to think I would have been better off with maybe 80% of the curriculum cut out. I could have put all that time to much better use developing knowledge and skills in those things that I had an innate interest in, let alone spent more time being active, around others, and outside - not sitting down at a desk. But society disagrees, so there's little choice but to conform.
ItsMonkk 5y ago
I did this. I realized what the GP said when I was 13. I was either bored working on subjects I liked because I knew them or bored working on subjects I didn't like and had no interest in. I was an angsty teenager who could not handle this, so I dropped out. At 18 I got my GED, after doing no studying, and that got me into a local college. After my first year I transferred to a less than Ivy League college in my state. I had no support, and therefore did not use this opportunity to do great things, but I still ended up pretty much where I would have had I not dropped out. I look back on that time as my pre-working early retirement that allowed me to figure out what was important to me.

manmal 5y ago

There are other types of schooling which are more tailored to the individual. You won’t find them in a public school though, with one teacher schooling 25-30 kids. It’s just not possible to cater to every individual‘s needs in that context. The only way to get more individual schooling is to have well-off parents who send you to a school with smaller classes, and ideally with a more relaxed schedule, like Montessori (I personally find them a little cult-like, there are other approaches too). Or, get born in Finland or Sweden, they invest heavily into their public education system, and it shows.

bedobi 5y ago
Haha hate to break your bubble but I am born, raised and schooled in Sweden :) I don't live there anymore though, I left as soon as I could, can't stand the place, but that's kind of a side note, lol. Finland and Sweden's schooling systems are very, very different. I wouldn't have enjoyed the Finnish one either, just saying.
- gizmondo 5y ago
  It must be weird to read all the fetishization of Scandinavia here? :)
  - bedobi 5y ago
    For sure! It gets talked about every now and then, this one generated a bunch https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24886659 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24886659
    - manmal 5y ago
      I‘m not fetishizing. There is lots of hard evidence that at least the Swedish model is superior to what eg Central European countries have. Our country sends delegations to Sweden to analyze what they are doing better, and maybe get inspired by that. Sorry for throwing Finland into the mix, I probably misremembered.
      - bedobi 5y ago
        Apologies, I didn't mean to say you were fetishizing, just that there's a lot of Scandinavia fetishizing on HN (and everywhere else for that matter) in general, haha
- manmal 5y ago
  You should have a look what public schooling looks like in most other countries, you‘d be surprised how good you had it. The fact that you dreaded school proves nothing.

bedobi 5y ago

> would you go into the time machine and like, not go to school, as a young person? Kind of, yeah. I'm not saying school is 100% useless, but I like to think I would have been better off with maybe 80% of the curriculum cut out. I could have put all that time to much better use developing knowledge and skills in those things that I had an innate interest in, let alone spent more time being active, around others, and outside - not sitting down at a desk. But society disagrees, so there's little choice but to conform.

ItsMonkk 5y ago

I did this. I realized what the GP said when I was 13. I was either bored working on subjects I liked because I knew them or bored working on subjects I didn't like and had no interest in. I was an angsty teenager who could not handle this, so I dropped out. At 18 I got my GED, after doing no studying, and that got me into a local college. After my first year I transferred to a less than Ivy League college in my state. I had no support, and therefore did not use this opportunity to do great things, but I still ended up pretty much where I would have had I not dropped out. I look back on that time as my pre-working early retirement that allowed me to figure out what was important to me.