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Your arguments really need a jump in logic to be accepted. They also completely fall apart when you realize two things: Offshoring has been happening for deca
by csdreamer7 5y ago
Your arguments really need a jump in logic to be accepted.
They also completely fall apart when you realize two things:
Offshoring has been happening for decades. H1B abuse has been happening for decades.
Yet salaries rose.
- RestlessMind 5y agoI explained the big difference this time here ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27697067 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27697067 )and here ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27697088 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27697088 ) Summary: outsourcing was never really going to work due to collaboration hurdles. Current model is to replace one US-worker at a time with a non-US-worker from the same timezone. Much more effective and much more lethal to US workers.
- csdreamer7 5y agoI think your argument both proves my point and contradicts yours. You assert that collaboration hurdles stops outsourcing. A point that I do not agree with, but if it was true, to outsource one person at a time requires remote collaboration tools between two teams that honestly wouldn't be that much more different than WFH to train and collaborate. Once again, you assert a lot of things without providing evidence besides your own testimony that is what your current employer is doing and your experience that in-person teams are more effective. I could assert my own experience dealing with open offices being too noisy to program in, in-building construction, employees making office chatter around you, or senior engineers needing to fly out to attend events, investor meetings, or sales; and you have to collaborate by zoom anyway. You also treat other countries legal, language, and cultural barriers as if they are not material. And trust me, they are.