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USA and France are actually doing well on renewables and nuclear even. Whereas China is still building a shit-ton of new coal plants. https://ieefa.org/france-

USA and France are actually doing well on renewables and nuclear even. Whereas China is still building a shit-ton of new coal plants. https://ieefa.org/france-boosts-renewable-energy-spending-to-a-record-e6-billion-in-2021-budget/ https://ieefa.org/france-boosts-renewable-energy-spending-to... https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/climate/coronavirus-coal-electricity-renewables.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/climate/coronavirus-coal-... https://e360.yale.edu/features/despite-pledges-to-cut-emissions-china-goes-on-a-coal-spree https://e360.yale.edu/features/despite-pledges-to-cut-emissi...

beders 5y ago
About China: https://www.bcg.com/publications/2020/how-china-can-achieve-carbon-neutrality-by-2060 https://www.bcg.com/publications/2020/how-china-can-achieve-...
rmah 5y ago
China is also the world's leading producer of solar cells (over 70%) and the world's leading user of solar power (about 33% of global solar power). China is also, by far, the leading producer and user of electric cars with almost half of the production and sales (more electric cars are sold in china than western europe + US combined). Half of all EV's in the world are driving around in China. Further, chinese people use a fraction of the electricity that north americans do. Canada: 14,600 kWh/yr, USA: 12,150 kWh/yr, China: 5,300 kWh/yr. In terms of CO2 emissions, it's the same story: USA: 17.6T/yr, Canada: 15.7T/yr, China: 6.4T/yr, on a per capita basis. It's hard to remember what with the shiny new tier 1 coastal cities, but try not to forget that, on average, china is still quite poor with only 1/4th to 1/5th the per capita income of the richer advanced economy nations like the US, Sweden, UK, Germany, Japan, etc. China is on par with Mexico, Malaysia, Panama, Russia, or Bulgaria. In short, the story is not so simple.
- marshray 5y ago
  IMO, per captia measures only matters for countries that allow unrestricted internal movement. China strictly controls how many people are allowed to migrate from the countryside to work in the cities, so it is, in some respects, multiple distinct economies with a centrally controlled standard of living.
908B64B197 5y ago
I assume China is also taking in a proportional amount of climate refugees as well.

beders 5y ago

About China: https://www.bcg.com/publications/2020/how-china-can-achieve-carbon-neutrality-by-2060 https://www.bcg.com/publications/2020/how-china-can-achieve-...

rmah 5y ago

China is also the world's leading producer of solar cells (over 70%) and the world's leading user of solar power (about 33% of global solar power). China is also, by far, the leading producer and user of electric cars with almost half of the production and sales (more electric cars are sold in china than western europe + US combined). Half of all EV's in the world are driving around in China. Further, chinese people use a fraction of the electricity that north americans do. Canada: 14,600 kWh/yr, USA: 12,150 kWh/yr, China: 5,300 kWh/yr. In terms of CO2 emissions, it's the same story: USA: 17.6T/yr, Canada: 15.7T/yr, China: 6.4T/yr, on a per capita basis. It's hard to remember what with the shiny new tier 1 coastal cities, but try not to forget that, on average, china is still quite poor with only 1/4th to 1/5th the per capita income of the richer advanced economy nations like the US, Sweden, UK, Germany, Japan, etc. China is on par with Mexico, Malaysia, Panama, Russia, or Bulgaria. In short, the story is not so simple.

marshray 5y ago
IMO, per captia measures only matters for countries that allow unrestricted internal movement. China strictly controls how many people are allowed to migrate from the countryside to work in the cities, so it is, in some respects, multiple distinct economies with a centrally controlled standard of living.

908B64B197 5y ago

I assume China is also taking in a proportional amount of climate refugees as well.