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I guess I was unclear in my comment. I meant that FAANG can spend money on WFH related perks (premium equipment, food delivery, whatever) that second tier compa

I guess I was unclear in my comment. I meant that FAANG can spend money on WFH related perks (premium equipment, food delivery, whatever) that second tier companies are maybe not willing to pay, thus retaining the same advantage they had in the office work era that was mentioned by the grandparent in their post.

bluGill 5y ago
But they can't create a culture of WFH like that. For WFH to really work it needs to be first class in the company, otherwise those who work from home are cut out from the day to day office politics. In that environment WFH people are less valuable.
sumtechguy 5y ago
Both of you have fair points. Mostly the lock in is money. They just pay higher rates, with stock incentives to keep you around longer. After awhile you realize the 'free lunch' and other things are nice but not really needed, especially if you are working from home. Where you realize those perks can be bought cheap enough. Also at some point you may get to the point where 'I am pretty good on money and just want more challenging work'. That only goes so far too. But yes companies could up their WFH perks. However, if I am reading the tea leaves right it looks like WFH may become be a perk that is part of a package. Not the perk. Something along the lines of 'every other friday' or 'be in office at least 2 days a week' something like that. I could see that only lasting so long too unless the upper management pushes it. Get a few over zealous ladder climbers and suddenly 'we need to skip WFH this friday we need to ship this ASAP' few months of that and it just doesnt happen anymore. But remember companies could also go the other way, and go bring your own device style of work. Meaning you pick up all the costs. I could also see 'oh you live in city XYZ well the pay rate there is 50% less than all the other sites'. Having worked at a few places in my career. Each one has for a lack of a better word 'style'. But at home that 'style' would not be as noticeable. Part of working at a place is that. You walk into a google building you know it is that. You walk into a bank and you know it is that. Just something about how everything is setup and run has a particular feel. I have bounced out of interviews just by walking the office (you could just see the dread and deathmarches they were on). I could see 'oh you say you buy top of the line computers but in reality all of your kit is 10 years old'. But at home, I am not going to get that. One company would be fairly similar in feel to another. Just me speaking personally if companies all look the same basically what ties me to one or another other than maybe some 'perks'?

bluGill 5y ago

But they can't create a culture of WFH like that. For WFH to really work it needs to be first class in the company, otherwise those who work from home are cut out from the day to day office politics. In that environment WFH people are less valuable.

sumtechguy 5y ago

Both of you have fair points. Mostly the lock in is money. They just pay higher rates, with stock incentives to keep you around longer. After awhile you realize the 'free lunch' and other things are nice but not really needed, especially if you are working from home. Where you realize those perks can be bought cheap enough. Also at some point you may get to the point where 'I am pretty good on money and just want more challenging work'. That only goes so far too. But yes companies could up their WFH perks. However, if I am reading the tea leaves right it looks like WFH may become be a perk that is part of a package. Not the perk. Something along the lines of 'every other friday' or 'be in office at least 2 days a week' something like that. I could see that only lasting so long too unless the upper management pushes it. Get a few over zealous ladder climbers and suddenly 'we need to skip WFH this friday we need to ship this ASAP' few months of that and it just doesnt happen anymore. But remember companies could also go the other way, and go bring your own device style of work. Meaning you pick up all the costs. I could also see 'oh you live in city XYZ well the pay rate there is 50% less than all the other sites'. Having worked at a few places in my career. Each one has for a lack of a better word 'style'. But at home that 'style' would not be as noticeable. Part of working at a place is that. You walk into a google building you know it is that. You walk into a bank and you know it is that. Just something about how everything is setup and run has a particular feel. I have bounced out of interviews just by walking the office (you could just see the dread and deathmarches they were on). I could see 'oh you say you buy top of the line computers but in reality all of your kit is 10 years old'. But at home, I am not going to get that. One company would be fairly similar in feel to another. Just me speaking personally if companies all look the same basically what ties me to one or another other than maybe some 'perks'?