I can totally see the need for Apple to get people back in the office. I mean they've lost so much money during the pandem...what's that? Billions you say? Laun

I can totally see the need for Apple to get people back in the office. I mean they've lost so much money during the pandem...what's that? Billions you say? Launched a new desktop architecture you say? Good heavens. Apple has a horde of middle managers that need to get back to looking busy. If they can't watch every employee every second of the day how can they do their unofficial (but totally official) stack ranking come review time? There's obviously legitimate reasons to get employees back in the office. At the same time their complete intransigence when it comes to remote work is just bull headed. Tons of work at Apple is networked by nature. There's floods of e-mail (to the point it's almost useless), Slack chats galore, and tons of communication through Radar (Apple's issue tracker). The business need for in-person interaction for most engineers is actually pretty minimal. Many have to put a lot of effort into avoiding in-person distractions. Most in-person meetings would actually be better as e-mails. I think their position is going to lose them some good talent. While on the whole those engineers can be replaced Apple runs lean engineering teams. Losing just one can hamstring that team for months. That can often mean a feature slips to the next OS release or a half-assed version lands. So an org losing even a dozen engineers all at once could screw it over for months.