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I get what you're saying, but it's those same bright minds who are concerned about being in an office amid a pandemic. It's a reasonable concern. Everyone has

by d4mi3n 5y ago

I get what you're saying, but it's those same bright minds who are concerned about being in an office amid a pandemic. It's a reasonable concern. Everyone has a right to make their own decisions, but calling somebody out as privileged over a legitimate health concern seems counterproductive. What does Apple or some other big company lose from having their employees work from home a bit longer? Productivity. Money. Maybe some projects run long. What does an employee have to lose? Their health. Possibly their life. Even if you're vaccinated, you can be a carrier, you can still catch COVID--you're just not likely to have a bad case of it. That does not mean it is no longer fatal or that you can't have complications from a mild case.

borski 5y ago
I was with you for the first half, but it is not true that there is any reasonable chance of death or significant complications after vaccination. At that point, the risk is no greater than a fire starting in your own home. The rest of what you said, I agree with. The more salient point is people who are immunocompromised and cannot get the vaccine.
- d4mi3n 5y ago
  After your comment I reviewed some recent research and concluded that you are correct in there mild cases have not been shown to be fatal or otherwise result in serious complications. Thank for the correction! I agree with you on the point of the immunocompromised and that those with weak immune responses are the most at risk. The AARP did a pretty good write up of the efficacy of a couple of COVID vaccines and what efficacy means[1]. They cite a number of studies and conclude that: * Breakthrough cases—infections after vaccination are possible, but rare, with multiple studies citing rate of breakthrough cases at 0.05% in a healthcare setting (high rate of risk/exposure). Small, but not astronomically so if you’re working in an open office or interacting with the general public. * Breakthrough cases typically result in mild symptoms or asymptomatic infections. * A weak immune response can turn you into a carrier even if you have been vaccinated. * New COVID variants may result in a rise in breakthrough cases. 1. https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/coronavirus-after-vaccination.html https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/...

by d4mi3n 5y ago

borski 5y ago

I was with you for the first half, but it is not true that there is any reasonable chance of death or significant complications after vaccination. At that point, the risk is no greater than a fire starting in your own home. The rest of what you said, I agree with. The more salient point is people who are immunocompromised and cannot get the vaccine.

d4mi3n 5y ago
After your comment I reviewed some recent research and concluded that you are correct in there mild cases have not been shown to be fatal or otherwise result in serious complications. Thank for the correction! I agree with you on the point of the immunocompromised and that those with weak immune responses are the most at risk. The AARP did a pretty good write up of the efficacy of a couple of COVID vaccines and what efficacy means[1]. They cite a number of studies and conclude that: * Breakthrough cases—infections after vaccination are possible, but rare, with multiple studies citing rate of breakthrough cases at 0.05% in a healthcare setting (high rate of risk/exposure). Small, but not astronomically so if you’re working in an open office or interacting with the general public. * Breakthrough cases typically result in mild symptoms or asymptomatic infections. * A weak immune response can turn you into a carrier even if you have been vaccinated. * New COVID variants may result in a rise in breakthrough cases. 1. https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/coronavirus-after-vaccination.html https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/...