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On average, people with degrees are way better than people without degrees. The most competent people I have met are usually out of the best schools. Of course
by GuB-42 5y ago
On average, people with degrees are way better than people without degrees. The most competent people I have met are usually out of the best schools.
Of course there are exceptions, and many people like to point them out and John Carmack is one of them. But really, someone who passed tests, spent a few years with a bunch of smart people, and took lessons, all that relevant to the work to be done has a high chance of being better at it than someone who did not do that.
There are some really smart people who are not fit for school, it it not uncommon. But what is a very common is really dumb people that are not fit for school.
Another common trope with successful college drop out is that they are usually entrepreneurs, certainly because as drop outs, they are better off doing that since it is harder for them to get hired. And then, you get into survivor bias. You only hear about the successful ones.
So, companies hire people with degrees, because on average, people with degrees are better. Easier for them than having to go through thousands of inadequate candidates in order to find the exception. They may miss out, but for most positions, it is not that big a deal for companies.
Degrees are a pretty good proxy for skill, not perfect, but I can't think of a better one right now for normal people. Of course, it doesn't apply for John Carmack. But when companies post mid-level job offerings, no John Carmack will answer the call.
- 908B64B197 5y agoIt's the signal-to-noise ratio.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago"On average, people with degrees are way better than people without degrees." says person with degree. I'm not convinced. By far, the thing I find correlates most with degree possession is familial wealth.
- GuB-42 5y agoYes, I have the equivalent of a masters degree, and my family is middle-class, but supportive and financially sound, which I think is fairly typical on HN. I also correlate skill with familial wealth, but more weakly than with degrees. It is clearly easier to learn some skill if you live comfortably. Not that long ago, many families couldn't afford a computer, try learning programming without a computer. If you are very motivated, you can do a lot, I have a lot of respect for those who do, but again, they are the exception, not the rule. I mean, the rich have personal tutors, the poor have local drug dealers, you do you think is more likely to end up the most qualified for a job in a reputable company? The worst part is that the rich may also end up better at finding drugs...