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The mini Ice Age in the early 1800s would disagree.

kergonath 5y ago
That’s a lot of nonsense in quite a few words. 1) The notable event climate-wise in the early 19th century was the year without a summer, which, whilst breaking records of low temperatures, was caused by a volcanic eruption. Other than that, this period was quite similar to the 4 centuries before, so there is nothing special about “the early 1800s”. 2) Solar activity just does not add up. We haven’t seen anything like an increase that would explain a change by even +0.5°C (we’re on our way to 2°C). 3) Solar cycles are ~10 years, not 4 centuries, which is how long the little ice age lasted. 4) There is no indication that the Milankovich cycle has changed, which means that we would still be in that little ice age without greenhouse gases. Global warming cannot be explained by orbital mechanics either. 5) The average global temperature during that period decreased by ~0.2°C, or about -0.05°C per century; again we’re on our way to +2°C in ~1 century. The rates of change have nothing in common. TL;DR: yeah, fuck all to do with solar activity.
- dominicjj 5y ago
  >we’re on our way to +2°C in ~1 century. Strange then that the number of hot days and average maximum temperature in the US has dropped sharply in the last century. But I'm sure you're right and the sun has fuck all to do with earth's temperature.
  - kergonath 5y ago
    > the number of hot days and average maximum temperature in the US has dropped sharply in the last century A reference would increase confidence in these assertions. But even so, it’s irrelevant because: > But I'm sure you're right and the sun has fuck all to do with earth's temperature. Solar activity hasn’t been increasing massively over the last century, whilst average temperatures did. And: “the US” is not “the world”.
    - dominicjj 5y ago
      >A reference would increase confidence in these assertions. The one and only Tony Heller: https://realclimatescience.com/2021/06/yes-climate-change-made-it-worse/ https://realclimatescience.com/2021/06/yes-climate-change-ma... >Solar activity hasn’t been increasing massively over the last century, whilst average temperatures did. Not really. The earth has been gently cooling down since the 1930s. The US has the best temperature records which is why it's the most useful to study.
      - kergonath 5y ago
        Damn. I did not realise we had to discuss the colour of the sky. If you want anyone to believe that the average temperature of the Earth is not actually increasing, then you'd better have very solid references. As it is there really is no point discussing. Also, are your fantastically accurate American satellites affected by the sub-par, inaccurate technology the rest of the world uses when they look outside the borders of the US? Because these also show a global warming.

That’s a lot of nonsense in quite a few words. 1) The notable event climate-wise in the early 19th century was the year without a summer, which, whilst breaking records of low temperatures, was caused by a volcanic eruption. Other than that, this period was quite similar to the 4 centuries before, so there is nothing special about “the early 1800s”. 2) Solar activity just does not add up. We haven’t seen anything like an increase that would explain a change by even +0.5°C (we’re on our way to 2°C). 3) Solar cycles are ~10 years, not 4 centuries, which is how long the little ice age lasted. 4) There is no indication that the Milankovich cycle has changed, which means that we would still be in that little ice age without greenhouse gases. Global warming cannot be explained by orbital mechanics either. 5) The average global temperature during that period decreased by ~0.2°C, or about -0.05°C per century; again we’re on our way to +2°C in ~1 century. The rates of change have nothing in common. TL;DR: yeah, fuck all to do with solar activity.

dominicjj 5y ago
>we’re on our way to +2°C in ~1 century. Strange then that the number of hot days and average maximum temperature in the US has dropped sharply in the last century. But I'm sure you're right and the sun has fuck all to do with earth's temperature.
- kergonath 5y ago
  > the number of hot days and average maximum temperature in the US has dropped sharply in the last century A reference would increase confidence in these assertions. But even so, it’s irrelevant because: > But I'm sure you're right and the sun has fuck all to do with earth's temperature. Solar activity hasn’t been increasing massively over the last century, whilst average temperatures did. And: “the US” is not “the world”.
  - dominicjj 5y ago
    >A reference would increase confidence in these assertions. The one and only Tony Heller: https://realclimatescience.com/2021/06/yes-climate-change-made-it-worse/ https://realclimatescience.com/2021/06/yes-climate-change-ma... >Solar activity hasn’t been increasing massively over the last century, whilst average temperatures did. Not really. The earth has been gently cooling down since the 1930s. The US has the best temperature records which is why it's the most useful to study.
    - kergonath 5y ago
      Damn. I did not realise we had to discuss the colour of the sky. If you want anyone to believe that the average temperature of the Earth is not actually increasing, then you'd better have very solid references. As it is there really is no point discussing. Also, are your fantastically accurate American satellites affected by the sub-par, inaccurate technology the rest of the world uses when they look outside the borders of the US? Because these also show a global warming.