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"Companies arent democracies" but they behave exactly like them in this case. If everyone refused to work from office tomorrow, that tim cook guy would bend in

"Companies arent democracies" but they behave exactly like them in this case. If everyone refused to work from office tomorrow, that tim cook guy would bend in an instant. And they should refuse.

whydoineedone 5y ago
says you; I prefer working in-office, in-person. The energy is 100x better, I can form real relationships with my co-workers instead of online bullshit relationships with zoom and goofy backgrounds. Partially remote teams are the absolute worst. I avoid remote positions like the plague.
duxup 5y ago
"If everyone refused" One of the things about this is that ... I don't trust my fellow employees much more than the CEO to make good choices. The typical firebrand employees I've worked with, I want nothing to do with as far as their overall initiatives go. I might agree with them on one thing but not what to do about it and etc.
ggreer 5y ago
First, not everyone wants to work remotely. Some people live in situations where there are too many distractions or annoyances at home. This is especially true if they have children. Second, For those who want to work remotely, this is a coordination problem. Nobody wants to be the first to give such an ultimatum to their manager, as they'd almost certainly be fired. Even if employees could all coordinate through some back channel, the reward for defecting is quite high. If half of your coworkers quit, you are suddenly a much more valuable member of the team. Anyone who stuck around would receive very high compensation.
- xtracto 5y ago
  > Some people live in situations where there are too many distractions or annoyances at home. This is especially true if they have children. I would prefer to rent a WeWork like space for myself in my own town (about $200 USD a month) if I needed a "distraction free work place" rather than moving all the way to California to spend 50% of my paycheck in cost-of-living.
  - dkonofalski 5y ago
    Well then it's a good thing it's not aimed at you. This is aimed at people that were already working on-site before the pandemic. If anything, it sounds like Apple is realizing that there is benefit to being able to work from home while also realizing that their entire history is based on people collaborating in-person. If you were worth it to them, you'd get one of those exemptions mentioned in the article.
gherkinnn 5y ago
"if everyone refused" is not how democracies work. "If everyone refused", that rocket man guy would bend in an instant. What an absurd idea.
the_reformation 5y ago
Monarchies have to respond to the threat of populist uprisings, but they're still monarchies.

"Companies arent democracies" but they behave exactly like them in this case. If everyone refused to work from office tomorrow, that tim cook guy would bend in an instant. And they should refuse.

whydoineedone 5y ago

says you; I prefer working in-office, in-person. The energy is 100x better, I can form real relationships with my co-workers instead of online bullshit relationships with zoom and goofy backgrounds. Partially remote teams are the absolute worst. I avoid remote positions like the plague.

duxup 5y ago

"If everyone refused" One of the things about this is that ... I don't trust my fellow employees much more than the CEO to make good choices. The typical firebrand employees I've worked with, I want nothing to do with as far as their overall initiatives go. I might agree with them on one thing but not what to do about it and etc.

ggreer 5y ago

First, not everyone wants to work remotely. Some people live in situations where there are too many distractions or annoyances at home. This is especially true if they have children. Second, For those who want to work remotely, this is a coordination problem. Nobody wants to be the first to give such an ultimatum to their manager, as they'd almost certainly be fired. Even if employees could all coordinate through some back channel, the reward for defecting is quite high. If half of your coworkers quit, you are suddenly a much more valuable member of the team. Anyone who stuck around would receive very high compensation.

xtracto 5y ago
> Some people live in situations where there are too many distractions or annoyances at home. This is especially true if they have children. I would prefer to rent a WeWork like space for myself in my own town (about $200 USD a month) if I needed a "distraction free work place" rather than moving all the way to California to spend 50% of my paycheck in cost-of-living.
- dkonofalski 5y ago
  Well then it's a good thing it's not aimed at you. This is aimed at people that were already working on-site before the pandemic. If anything, it sounds like Apple is realizing that there is benefit to being able to work from home while also realizing that their entire history is based on people collaborating in-person. If you were worth it to them, you'd get one of those exemptions mentioned in the article.

gherkinnn 5y ago

"if everyone refused" is not how democracies work. "If everyone refused", that rocket man guy would bend in an instant. What an absurd idea.

the_reformation 5y ago

Monarchies have to respond to the threat of populist uprisings, but they're still monarchies.