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> Saskylakh, an Arctic town, recorded 31.9C on 20 June, according to the EU’s Copernicus programme, who said it was the small community’s hottest temperature si

> Saskylakh, an Arctic town, recorded 31.9C on 20 June, according to the EU’s Copernicus programme, who said it was the small community’s hottest temperature since 1936 before the summer solstice. Why was it so hot in 1936?

simplicio 5y ago
A lot of the times its hard to tell when they quote weather records whether "hottest since X" means it was hotter on date X, or that's just as far back as records go.
melling 5y ago
So hot then? I’m not sure. There will be outlier weather conditions. However, the difference between 90 degrees F (32C) and 118 F (48C) is extreme,IMHO. Are they really comparable?
eximius 5y ago
It doesnt really matter. Temperature and weather variance exist, there will always be extreme weather events on record, but wildly temporally disparately. A million locations, a million draws from a random distributuon, a few of them are going to have far tail events. What we're seeing today is breaking records everywhere, at the same time.
- throwawaysea 5y ago
  I would argue that we still need to cautiously analyze each event and understand them for their specific circumstances. For example there was a heat wave recently in the Pacific Northwest of the US. Casual journalists and politicians have been pulling it into the global warming narrative, with our state's governor going so far as hinting at a "permanent climate emergency". Meanwhile, actual climate scientists are being more cautious, since this event also looks a lot like a rare perfect storm of coinciding factors. That is, it may have been that rare "1 in 100 years" event that would occur with or without climate change. For instance, Cliff Mass, a Professor of Atmospheric Science at UW, said (https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/06/incredible-temperatures-are-being.html https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/06/incredible-temperatur...): > Is global warming contributing to this heatwave? The answer is certainly yes. Would we have had a record heatwave without global warming. The answer is yes as well.
dharmab 5y ago
It wasn't- this appears to have been mistranslated into English. Measurements started in 1936. https://twitter.com/EKMeteo/status/1406612294075830286 https://twitter.com/EKMeteo/status/1406612294075830286
loopz 5y ago
You will find historical records of high temperature spikes. What matters as signal are clusters of high temperatures, and all-time highs. We're going into high temperature thresholds beyond what is normal for the past 10K years. Almost every year from this point onwards are probably going to bring novelty about high temperatures. However, we also DON'T want normalization of temperatures, back towards Ice Age levels. So humanity is in a tough squeeze now, preferably wanting stable levels somehow (if science can conclude that to be optimal). It will be interesting if we can discover links between sun activity and climate as well: https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/ https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/0... So as usual, this should prove tough to conclude.

simplicio 5y ago

A lot of the times its hard to tell when they quote weather records whether "hottest since X" means it was hotter on date X, or that's just as far back as records go.

melling 5y ago

So hot then? I’m not sure. There will be outlier weather conditions. However, the difference between 90 degrees F (32C) and 118 F (48C) is extreme,IMHO. Are they really comparable?

eximius 5y ago

It doesnt really matter. Temperature and weather variance exist, there will always be extreme weather events on record, but wildly temporally disparately. A million locations, a million draws from a random distributuon, a few of them are going to have far tail events. What we're seeing today is breaking records everywhere, at the same time.

throwawaysea 5y ago
I would argue that we still need to cautiously analyze each event and understand them for their specific circumstances. For example there was a heat wave recently in the Pacific Northwest of the US. Casual journalists and politicians have been pulling it into the global warming narrative, with our state's governor going so far as hinting at a "permanent climate emergency". Meanwhile, actual climate scientists are being more cautious, since this event also looks a lot like a rare perfect storm of coinciding factors. That is, it may have been that rare "1 in 100 years" event that would occur with or without climate change. For instance, Cliff Mass, a Professor of Atmospheric Science at UW, said (https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/06/incredible-temperatures-are-being.html https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2021/06/incredible-temperatur...): > Is global warming contributing to this heatwave? The answer is certainly yes. Would we have had a record heatwave without global warming. The answer is yes as well.

dharmab 5y ago

It wasn't- this appears to have been mistranslated into English. Measurements started in 1936. https://twitter.com/EKMeteo/status/1406612294075830286 https://twitter.com/EKMeteo/status/1406612294075830286

loopz 5y ago

You will find historical records of high temperature spikes. What matters as signal are clusters of high temperatures, and all-time highs. We're going into high temperature thresholds beyond what is normal for the past 10K years. Almost every year from this point onwards are probably going to bring novelty about high temperatures. However, we also DON'T want normalization of temperatures, back towards Ice Age levels. So humanity is in a tough squeeze now, preferably wanting stable levels somehow (if science can conclude that to be optimal). It will be interesting if we can discover links between sun activity and climate as well: https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/ https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/0... So as usual, this should prove tough to conclude.