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>Don't have those expenses anymore? Then why should I compensate you the same as if you did? Because you're paying people to complete a job, not for what they

>Don't have those expenses anymore? Then why should I compensate you the same as if you did? Because you're paying people to complete a job, not for what they do outside of work hours genius. Are you paying people who have kids and longer commutes more money? Didn't think so. >Why should I pay you more than some other remote worker in India, who'll work for a third of your pay? They're 1/3 as good. If that's such a good option then why haven't you done it already? Good luck getting qualified workers with that attitude. Capitalism works both ways bud and isn't an employer only benefit. Right now employees have the upper hand and if you want to bring decent talent in you should probably be competitive.

rblatz 5y ago
What about being Indian makes someone 1/3 as good?
- bluGill 5y ago
  Going rate for someone in India that is as good as me is about 60% of my pay. So if they are making 1/3 as much as me they are not as good as me (though not 1/3)
  - rocknor 5y ago
    > Going rate for someone in India that is as good as me is about 60% of my pay Ah, totally not an inflated sense of self worth... do you have a source for that number? New grad salaries for even graduates of top CS programs in India are between 1/4th and 1/3rd of $100k [1]. For most other good graduates it's lower. So what you said is incredibly ignorant and arrogant. Do better. You're not as special as you think. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Software-Engineer-Bangalore-Salaries-EJI_IE9079.0,6_KO7,24_IL.25,34_IM1091.htm?experienceLevel=LESS_THAN_ONE https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Software-Engineer-Ba...
    - bluGill 5y ago
      I'm not a new grad though, I have many years of experience, and a history of being worth paying. I'm not allowed to see real numbers, but I'm told that real pay is around that range by those who do in my company. Note that in India people work longer hours, so per hour you are getting down to less than 50% of my wages.
      - rocknor 5y ago
        > Note that in India people work longer hours Grasping at straws here. > I have many years of experience, and a history of being worth paying Seems like your ego can't handle it. Why do you think that there aren't similar people elsewhere in the world? You can't keep throwing random numbers without sources to back them up. The reality is that your job can be done by many others living in a country with lower COL with much, much less money.
        CountDrewku 5y ago
        >your job can be done by many others living in a country with lower COL with much, much less money Then why isn't it being done by them already? Do you think companies hate saving money and just prefer to throw it away on more expensive employees who aren't any better? Someone has an inflated self worth and ego issues but it's not the guy you're responding to.
        rblatz 5y ago
        I'll give you a hint, it's related to the parent topic. Companies insisting on people being in the office and not remote.
        rocknor 5y ago
        Because of the article. Remote work is not preferred by many because it simply cannot match face to face interaction. And I don't know what your problem is, I was merely pointing out the parent commentator was very wrong with the salary numbers they provided, which shows disconnect with reality. I never said that all jobs can and will go remote. Read my comments again, properly this time.

rblatz 5y ago

What about being Indian makes someone 1/3 as good?

bluGill 5y ago
Going rate for someone in India that is as good as me is about 60% of my pay. So if they are making 1/3 as much as me they are not as good as me (though not 1/3)
- rocknor 5y ago
  > Going rate for someone in India that is as good as me is about 60% of my pay Ah, totally not an inflated sense of self worth... do you have a source for that number? New grad salaries for even graduates of top CS programs in India are between 1/4th and 1/3rd of $100k [1]. For most other good graduates it's lower. So what you said is incredibly ignorant and arrogant. Do better. You're not as special as you think. https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Software-Engineer-Bangalore-Salaries-EJI_IE9079.0,6_KO7,24_IL.25,34_IM1091.htm?experienceLevel=LESS_THAN_ONE https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Software-Engineer-Ba...
  - bluGill 5y ago
    I'm not a new grad though, I have many years of experience, and a history of being worth paying. I'm not allowed to see real numbers, but I'm told that real pay is around that range by those who do in my company. Note that in India people work longer hours, so per hour you are getting down to less than 50% of my wages.
    - rocknor 5y ago
      > Note that in India people work longer hours Grasping at straws here. > I have many years of experience, and a history of being worth paying Seems like your ego can't handle it. Why do you think that there aren't similar people elsewhere in the world? You can't keep throwing random numbers without sources to back them up. The reality is that your job can be done by many others living in a country with lower COL with much, much less money.
      - CountDrewku 5y ago
        >your job can be done by many others living in a country with lower COL with much, much less money Then why isn't it being done by them already? Do you think companies hate saving money and just prefer to throw it away on more expensive employees who aren't any better? Someone has an inflated self worth and ego issues but it's not the guy you're responding to.
        rblatz 5y ago
        I'll give you a hint, it's related to the parent topic. Companies insisting on people being in the office and not remote.
        rocknor 5y ago
        Because of the article. Remote work is not preferred by many because it simply cannot match face to face interaction. And I don't know what your problem is, I was merely pointing out the parent commentator was very wrong with the salary numbers they provided, which shows disconnect with reality. I never said that all jobs can and will go remote. Read my comments again, properly this time.