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Most master's degrees, and degrees in general, are going to females, so if they're trying to filter for males then they aren't doing a good job.
by hn8788 5y ago
Most master's degrees, and degrees in general, are going to females, so if they're trying to filter for males then they aren't doing a good job.
- batty_alex 5y ago>> are going to females Women, you mean Women.
- username90 5y agoNo, female developers is an accurate term. There is nothing wrong with the word. You don't say women developers. And since it is fine in this scenario it is also fine in that scenario. You are creating a problem out of nothing here. Edit: Also woman is not inclusive, since it excludes kids. You wouldn't say that women toddlers. Using female and male are the only terms you can use when you are talking about the groups as a whole. Attacking people for using them just makes it impossible to correctly use the language.
- ask_b123 5y agoI mean… 'female' in "female developers" is an adjective, while it is a noun in "are going to females". Saying "are going to women" would be grammatically correct even if "women developers" isn't. Furthermore, most Master's degrees are not going to kids. I think it is probably fine to say "are going to females", but saying "are going to women" is not wrong and it probably sounds better.
- username90 5y agoForcing people to add age qualifiers whenever they talk about gender seems insane though. And while it is uncommon for kids to get higher degrees it still happens.
- greydius 5y agoI think the reason this word choice is divisive is that male/female refer to biological sex, whereas man/woman refer to gender roles. A large segment of society recognizes that gender is something people are free to choose.
- Ekaros 5y agoLarge segment? Could I get some source on that statement?
- squeaky-clean 5y agoNo one said "female developers" though. So while it's an accurate term, that's not an accurate quotation of any comment here.
- akarma 5y agoParent comment was responding to a comment that used the term "male." Responding with equivalent phrasing and saying "female" in that context makes a lot more sense.
- mschuster91 5y agoParent comment used "male" as an adjective and not as a noun.
- mschuster91 5y ago> are going to females Please, don't use "females" as a noun, that's gramatically incorrect and dehumanizing language (see e.g https://medium.com/fearless-she-wrote/woman-vs-female-67fd4c36fe59 https://medium.com/fearless-she-wrote/woman-vs-female-67fd4c...). Additionally you're factually wrong, in STEM fields (which is what we are talking about) about twice as many degrees go to men: https://www.statista.com/statistics/828906/number-of-stem-degrees-awarded-in-the-us-by-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/828906/number-of-stem-de...
- chefgoldbluum 5y agoIt is not surprising people react poorly to other people trying to police their natural language based on assumptions projected onto them about it. Male/female to describe individual or cohorts of humans based on sex is pretty common language. It certainly isn't "fundamentally" wrong. It's just a higher abstraction. You have to infer the form of being from the context - usually very easy. The rest of this article is just an author's assertions about how these words are used.
- l33t2328 5y agoThe Person you replied to used “males” as a noun as well. I find it interesting you didn’t have any words with respect to that.