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I think WFH is also primed for abuse, but I haven’t heard anything from companies of what they are going to do, or what employees are going to do, about prevent

I think WFH is also primed for abuse, but I haven’t heard anything from companies of what they are going to do, or what employees are going to do, about preventing and avoiding abuse. it’s easy and rather flip and just say well if you don’t do your job you’re going to get fired, what does that mean exactly, and how long would it take? I think there’s also a trust issue, a lot of people who want to return to the office just don’t trust their colleagues to actually do the work from home.

dangus 5y ago
It's only primed for abuse if your company is so incompetent that it has no idea what your actual job is supposed to be. For a company like that, how hard is it really for someone inside the physical office to hide the fact that they're watching cat videos all day? What does the physical office space have anything to do with it? We basically carry around portable entertainment devices that can fit in our pocket. On top of that, a lot of companies have sophisticated HR software that monitors employee activity, some that even takes periodic screenshots. It’s hard for me to pin “abuse” on working from home.
CountDrewku 5y ago
What abuse? Do you think people sitting the office are actually doing work at all time? Anyone who pays attention at the office knows people are constantly wasting time socializing and surfing the web. It's all a facade to pretend like more work is being done. If anything COVID uncovered the fact that most modern jobs are unnecessary, or can be completed in very little time and don't require a 40 hour work week. The focus should be on whether goals and projects are being completed not how much people have their asses in office chairs.
nklop 5y ago
The whole "don't trust employees to do the work" thing is an interesting statement. It reveals a lot about how the business measures and keeps track of its own performance. Just how much was being done in the office pre-pandemic? Those businesses likely didn't actually know. well they sure looked busy, right? The abuse aspect is also interesting. Friend of mine got verbally abused. On zoom video with audio. While it was recording. So that was an experience when HR got involved. Overworking is another aspect. That is still being explored. Plenty of scope for that to blow up as well.

dangus 5y ago

It's only primed for abuse if your company is so incompetent that it has no idea what your actual job is supposed to be. For a company like that, how hard is it really for someone inside the physical office to hide the fact that they're watching cat videos all day? What does the physical office space have anything to do with it? We basically carry around portable entertainment devices that can fit in our pocket. On top of that, a lot of companies have sophisticated HR software that monitors employee activity, some that even takes periodic screenshots. It’s hard for me to pin “abuse” on working from home.

CountDrewku 5y ago

What abuse? Do you think people sitting the office are actually doing work at all time? Anyone who pays attention at the office knows people are constantly wasting time socializing and surfing the web. It's all a facade to pretend like more work is being done. If anything COVID uncovered the fact that most modern jobs are unnecessary, or can be completed in very little time and don't require a 40 hour work week. The focus should be on whether goals and projects are being completed not how much people have their asses in office chairs.

nklop 5y ago

The whole "don't trust employees to do the work" thing is an interesting statement. It reveals a lot about how the business measures and keeps track of its own performance. Just how much was being done in the office pre-pandemic? Those businesses likely didn't actually know. well they sure looked busy, right? The abuse aspect is also interesting. Friend of mine got verbally abused. On zoom video with audio. While it was recording. So that was an experience when HR got involved. Overworking is another aspect. That is still being explored. Plenty of scope for that to blow up as well.