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how so? citizens don't want more noisy minarets, the people that want the minarets can stay in the middle east.

naturalauction 5y ago
>citizens don't want more noisy minarets The referendum wasn't on noise or the legality of minarets broadcasting sound though, it was on the structures themselves. Churches can still build steeples (or even noisy belltowers). I fail to see why the simple construction of a minaret harms anyone any more than say a steeple of a church of a different denomination. If anything it just seems like legislation to tell Muslims that they are not welcome in Switzerland.
- nojokes 5y ago
  Maybe people enjoy church bells but not the calls from the minaret?
  - naturalauction 5y ago
    But even minarets that don't make noise are banned. I also would not want to live next to a mosque that played loud noises 5-times daily as is done in many countries. But here in the UK most Mosques don't broadcast any noise at all despite having minarets. Like any other building, they have to apply for a permit if they want to do so.
- nojokes 5y ago
  If anything it just seems like legislation to tell Muslims that they are not welcome in Switzerland. I think it is exactly that and this should be their right.
- nojokes 5y ago
  I fail to see why the simple construction of a minaret harms anyone any more than say a steeple of a church of a different denomination. Minarets do not build themselves. There would be very possibly some money and influence involved from countries that do not share Swiss people values.
  - naturalauction 5y ago
    >There would be very possibly some money and influence involved from countries that do not share Swiss people values. But then why not address that by banning foreign funding of construction of religious buildings? If Swiss Muslims want to build a minaret on their mosque I personally don't see the harm. But it's clear that others disagree.
    - nojokes 5y ago
      I do not know what is really going on here but I can think of something that is similar. Imagine that Swiss communists want to raise a 10m high statue of Stalin. From one point of view it is just a statue but from another point of view it is a huge symbol that in many ways advocates against what Swiss people value.
dang 5y ago
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>citizens don't want more noisy minarets The referendum wasn't on noise or the legality of minarets broadcasting sound though, it was on the structures themselves. Churches can still build steeples (or even noisy belltowers). I fail to see why the simple construction of a minaret harms anyone any more than say a steeple of a church of a different denomination. If anything it just seems like legislation to tell Muslims that they are not welcome in Switzerland.

nojokes 5y ago
Maybe people enjoy church bells but not the calls from the minaret?
- naturalauction 5y ago
  But even minarets that don't make noise are banned. I also would not want to live next to a mosque that played loud noises 5-times daily as is done in many countries. But here in the UK most Mosques don't broadcast any noise at all despite having minarets. Like any other building, they have to apply for a permit if they want to do so.
nojokes 5y ago
If anything it just seems like legislation to tell Muslims that they are not welcome in Switzerland. I think it is exactly that and this should be their right.
nojokes 5y ago
I fail to see why the simple construction of a minaret harms anyone any more than say a steeple of a church of a different denomination. Minarets do not build themselves. There would be very possibly some money and influence involved from countries that do not share Swiss people values.
- naturalauction 5y ago
  >There would be very possibly some money and influence involved from countries that do not share Swiss people values. But then why not address that by banning foreign funding of construction of religious buildings? If Swiss Muslims want to build a minaret on their mosque I personally don't see the harm. But it's clear that others disagree.
  - nojokes 5y ago
    I do not know what is really going on here but I can think of something that is similar. Imagine that Swiss communists want to raise a 10m high statue of Stalin. From one point of view it is just a statue but from another point of view it is a huge symbol that in many ways advocates against what Swiss people value.

dang 5y ago

Please don't post unsubstantive/flamebait comments to HN. Especially please don't cross into slurs. This one was borderline but it certainly fits the format that we don't want here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: if you could please stop creating accounts like this and definitely stop creating accounts to break the site rules with, we'd be grateful.