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Yeah, even if these are still freak events on the edge of the bell curve - they only need to happen once to kill huge numbers of people. And we are shifting an

Yeah, even if these are still freak events on the edge of the bell curve - they only need to happen once to kill huge numbers of people. And we are shifting and broadening that bell curve.

monkeybutton 5y ago
That increase in variance and the instability that comes with it is going to be super fun. We've already been having record cold winters due to the "polar vortex" (caused by weakening of the northern jet stream), now we get a "heat dome" on the other end of the extreme. One of the most annoying and ignorant dismissals of climate change you can hear from denialists in Canada is "oh it won't be so bad for us, we could really use the warmer weather up here in Canada lol". Maybe these events will get them to understand that no, it won't be beneficial for us at all, but I've already seen comments elsewhere on the internet that are questioning the accuracy of the reports. Stating things like that weather station has been having "problems" in the past. It sounded so much like the covid and election conspiracies I wanted to scream. If people can't or won't trust in scientists or the institutions that are the foundation for our countries, how will we make any progress addressing climate change?
- jfim 5y ago
  > One of the most annoying and ignorant dismissals of climate change you can hear from denialists in Canada is "oh it won't be so bad for us, we could really use the warmer weather up here in Canada lol". You can always ask them if they're also looking forward to dozens of millions of climate migrants from South East Asia, Latin America, and Africa, once those places become warmer. Emphasize that those migrants would move into their province or town.
  - Vecr 5y ago
    Canada is a sovereign nation, it has no obligation to accept any of those migrants. Under current agreements it would accept asylum seekers from the US, but it could easily withdraw. You could have winged UAVs with small arms paroling constantly at very low time increments at any possible land entrance point, and dropping demolition satchels from helicopters is a very easy method to handle attempted landings. Or you could use the UAVs again if that gets too costly in resources. The current government would probably not try this, but a lot can change over the coming decades. I don't find this position very novel, as MAD, The Samson Option, and the Korean DMZ were considered and at least implemented in a posturing way, even if the first two are quite overblown.

Yeah, even if these are still freak events on the edge of the bell curve - they only need to happen once to kill huge numbers of people. And we are shifting and broadening that bell curve.

monkeybutton 5y ago

That increase in variance and the instability that comes with it is going to be super fun. We've already been having record cold winters due to the "polar vortex" (caused by weakening of the northern jet stream), now we get a "heat dome" on the other end of the extreme. One of the most annoying and ignorant dismissals of climate change you can hear from denialists in Canada is "oh it won't be so bad for us, we could really use the warmer weather up here in Canada lol". Maybe these events will get them to understand that no, it won't be beneficial for us at all, but I've already seen comments elsewhere on the internet that are questioning the accuracy of the reports. Stating things like that weather station has been having "problems" in the past. It sounded so much like the covid and election conspiracies I wanted to scream. If people can't or won't trust in scientists or the institutions that are the foundation for our countries, how will we make any progress addressing climate change?

jfim 5y ago
> One of the most annoying and ignorant dismissals of climate change you can hear from denialists in Canada is "oh it won't be so bad for us, we could really use the warmer weather up here in Canada lol". You can always ask them if they're also looking forward to dozens of millions of climate migrants from South East Asia, Latin America, and Africa, once those places become warmer. Emphasize that those migrants would move into their province or town.
- Vecr 5y ago
  Canada is a sovereign nation, it has no obligation to accept any of those migrants. Under current agreements it would accept asylum seekers from the US, but it could easily withdraw. You could have winged UAVs with small arms paroling constantly at very low time increments at any possible land entrance point, and dropping demolition satchels from helicopters is a very easy method to handle attempted landings. Or you could use the UAVs again if that gets too costly in resources. The current government would probably not try this, but a lot can change over the coming decades. I don't find this position very novel, as MAD, The Samson Option, and the Korean DMZ were considered and at least implemented in a posturing way, even if the first two are quite overblown.