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That's entirely feasible. Mind that 8 years ago was 2013 and systems like the recommendation system from Amazon was already online. Also it only specifies machi

That's entirely feasible. Mind that 8 years ago was 2013 and systems like the recommendation system from Amazon was already online. Also it only specifies machine learning, pattern recognition, NLP etc - all of which are active research fields for far more then 20 years already. It's not like they are asking for more than 8 years of experience in Pytorch.

user-the-name 5y ago
Sure, it's feasible on its own. But the position is for working on graphics rendering, a completely unrelated field. Are you supposed to have had two careers at the same time, working eight years in AI while also working all that same time on graphics?
- mkr-hn 5y ago
  There's a lot of research on using AI/ML with graphics. I've seen demos people have done using it to create HD remasters of shows originally in SD on tape or too-small film, or where there wasn't much interest from IP owners in doing it. Or where, once you expanded sideways, there was too much crew or rough set to use it. Since Facebook is doing VR, and this position is about VR, I can easily see the potential of using ML to make the most of sketchy/low-quality models and textures people might want to use in worlds. Imagine if you could upload a rough model, describe what you want, and get it made for you.
  - seoaeu 5y ago
    Yeah, but back in 2013? Most of what you're talking about is much more recent. To have 8 years of AI/ML expertise already while also previously being a graphics expert requires a very improbable career progression
  - Scarblac 5y ago
    Yes, but _on mobile_? With details like "graphics hardware and drivers on mobile platforms" and "the mobile graphics pipeline and interaction across display and optics". I mean obviously a lot of people work in that area but the overlap with AI/ML simultaneously seems very small, for 8+ years in one person. And of course if you're in research then it's hard to tick boxes like "leading consumer-based projects with industry-wide impact" and "mentoring/influencing senior engineers across organizations" and so on.
    - TeMPOraL 5y ago
      [snip; not enough coffee]
      - user-the-name 5y ago
        Try re-reading the post you responded to.
Aerroon 5y ago
But how many people are also going to be "highly experienced in the mobile graphics pipeline"? Isn't that also about ~10 years old?
- marcinzm 5y ago
  When you're willing to pay a million+ a year you just need a couple people.
  - thrill 5y ago
    When you are willing to pay a million+ a year you already know who you want to hire.
dalbasal 5y ago
Feasible, but in a naive sense. much sk The number of people working in "those areas," defined narrowly, is much bigger than it was eight years ago. That makes this a big requirement. People who are skilled, deep or enthusiastic enough to make that 8 years experience better than 4 are not likely to just show up, while also ticking the other boxes. Narrowing the pool past a certain point is a different type of problem. In any case, these aren't to be taken to literally.

user-the-name 5y ago

Sure, it's feasible on its own. But the position is for working on graphics rendering, a completely unrelated field. Are you supposed to have had two careers at the same time, working eight years in AI while also working all that same time on graphics?

mkr-hn 5y ago
There's a lot of research on using AI/ML with graphics. I've seen demos people have done using it to create HD remasters of shows originally in SD on tape or too-small film, or where there wasn't much interest from IP owners in doing it. Or where, once you expanded sideways, there was too much crew or rough set to use it. Since Facebook is doing VR, and this position is about VR, I can easily see the potential of using ML to make the most of sketchy/low-quality models and textures people might want to use in worlds. Imagine if you could upload a rough model, describe what you want, and get it made for you.
- seoaeu 5y ago
  Yeah, but back in 2013? Most of what you're talking about is much more recent. To have 8 years of AI/ML expertise already while also previously being a graphics expert requires a very improbable career progression
- Scarblac 5y ago
  Yes, but _on mobile_? With details like "graphics hardware and drivers on mobile platforms" and "the mobile graphics pipeline and interaction across display and optics". I mean obviously a lot of people work in that area but the overlap with AI/ML simultaneously seems very small, for 8+ years in one person. And of course if you're in research then it's hard to tick boxes like "leading consumer-based projects with industry-wide impact" and "mentoring/influencing senior engineers across organizations" and so on.
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    [snip; not enough coffee]
    - user-the-name 5y ago
      Try re-reading the post you responded to.

Aerroon 5y ago

But how many people are also going to be "highly experienced in the mobile graphics pipeline"? Isn't that also about ~10 years old?

marcinzm 5y ago
When you're willing to pay a million+ a year you just need a couple people.
- thrill 5y ago
  When you are willing to pay a million+ a year you already know who you want to hire.

dalbasal 5y ago

Feasible, but in a naive sense. much sk The number of people working in "those areas," defined narrowly, is much bigger than it was eight years ago. That makes this a big requirement. People who are skilled, deep or enthusiastic enough to make that 8 years experience better than 4 are not likely to just show up, while also ticking the other boxes. Narrowing the pool past a certain point is a different type of problem. In any case, these aren't to be taken to literally.