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Everything you've pointed out are sort of known issues with the google market. Instead of complaining switch to Apple store and see if you do any better. To m

Everything you've pointed out are sort of known issues with the google market. Instead of complaining switch to Apple store and see if you do any better. To me this is almost a trolling rant, to ignite the Apple vs Android debate and possibly a marketing ploy. Theres been plenty of posts about successes in the Android market. I actually think you've done quite well on the Android Market. Release your game on the Apple market and let us know how well you do trying to get traction or downloads there. >We looked at the apps currently available on Google's Market and realized that there is a lack of quality applications with dedicated developers. This is completely untrue, and stop spreading this FUD. Most developers support both platforms and there are plenty of high quality applications. *edited to address rant of high quality apps.

CCapigami 15y ago
Things are pretty different in regards to application quality right now and when we released the first version of our application. Just wanted to share that.
- shareme 15y ago
  Have you considered going through android market/developer relations instead of general support? If you google enough times you will find names and email and position titles(ie what areas of developer relations they handle) In fact there is a specific page listing all this stuff even..
  - alohahacker 15y ago
    a good thing ive found because im facing the same issues is google and find memebers on the android team on google+/quora?twitter and let them know firsthand the problems this has seem to work for me and escalates the prob very fast! :)
ssutch 15y ago
It's not a game, it's a todo/shopping list that cost $5. It won't fair well on the Apple App Store as there are already 100's if not 1000's of those apps, many of which have been polished to a mirror finish.
masklinn 15y ago
> Release your game on the Apple market and let us know how well you do trying to get traction or downloads there. Considering it's a shopping/todo list and the apple store is already filled to the brim with high quality software in that space (it's always been one of the most crowded spaces in the store), unless they have something very, very compelling to offer I can't see it do much.
yalogin 15y ago
He was probably talking about the quality of shopping list apps when they were surveying the various market places. Its not necessarily an indication of the situation now.
- angryasian 15y ago
  well from what I can see his first review is in February of this year.
guelo 15y ago
Are you doing a reddit style performance based on your username? If so it is not funny or appropriate, if not I don't get why you're so aggressive and accusatory with your reply.
- angryasian 15y ago
  My only point is he is blaming google for everyone of his own failures. Rather than blaming google, do something productive about it. A lot of these issues have been known issues and if he did any sort of diligence would be fully aware of these by now. As I pointed out there are plenty of successes on the Google Market, and a lot of developers on doing very well on the Market itself. I welcome his advice for other developers to wait, that means more opportunity for developers that do want to develop on the Android marketplace.
  - mmmarvin 15y ago
    Your point makes no sense. How is the fact that Google has horrible support his fault? How is the fact that Google isn't updating the stats his fault? How is the fact that Google changed the search algorithm his fault? > "A lot of these issues have been known issues and if he did any sort of diligence would be fully aware of these by now" Oh, so these are known issues now and not "his fault." Becoming "aware" of these issues doesn't make them magically go away. This issues are still on-going despite what Google's Known Issues page says. Whatever argument you are trying to make here you're doing a horrible job at it.
    - angryasian 15y ago
      no need to be argumentative, but again.. no one is telling you guys to develop for the Android Market, go do apps on the Apple market if all these things are so troublesome for your team. I imagine you can do search and see all these issues in the past, and rather ranting figure out how to work around it, theres actually been a lot of good suggestion in this thread, and I can see you continue to place the blame on Google. So what it is their fault.. they won't fix .. now do something about it. Believe me theres plenty of opportunity on the Android market for good apps. Second, working on any platform changes occur all the time.. example: Twitter and Facebook developers get screwed all the time, Apple just changed their subscription policy, Google changed their regular search algorithm to take down content farms.. Yes companies change their policies constantly its up to the developers to adjust or quit.
Gobiner 15y ago
You clearly did not read the posting you're commenting on. Nowhere does he say he made a game. Nowhere does he say he's never tried to find his own solutions. Nowhere does he say he hasn't done well. In fact he stated the opposite. He is no longer doing well because Google broke their own shit and don't seem to be in any particular hurry to address it. In case you missed it: Out of Milk went from doing extremely well to dead in the water almost overnight. We are working as hard we can to try and figure out solutions from our own end, but Google is the guy driving this bus and we can only do so much on our own. Google's market problems aren't app developers responsibility to overcome just because they are 'sort of known'.
- angryasian 15y ago
  "Google's market problems aren't app developers responsibility to overcome just because they are 'sort of known'." Ummm yes they are. When apple changes their policy for subscription, you either quit or adjust.. When twitter says no in stream ads to an ad company like ad.ly, they either quit or adjust, when facebook says no to an app that notifies users of changing relationship , you either quite or adjust... etc, etc.
  - bond 15y ago
    Seems you don't develop for Android or you'll know google messed up the search algorithm and after a lot of complaints from developers and users who couldn't find apps, google started fixing things...
    - angryasian 15y ago
      Well I do, but my business is not reliant on being in the top google search results. I have nothing to brag about, or complain about, as like I've stated, everything he's said has been addressed prior.
      - bond 15y ago
        Well it seems you're mixing things up. Having a change in policy has nothing to do with bugs on the way the market performs. One thing is a shift in direction from Google and another is bugs that prevents developers and users from finding apps. On a other post you talk about marketing as if would make any difference. There's a lot of developers complaining users couldn't find their apps after they were told to look for them on the market. How would a marketing campaign solve this problem? It's Google's duty to provide developers and users with a reliable market experience.

CCapigami 15y ago

Things are pretty different in regards to application quality right now and when we released the first version of our application. Just wanted to share that.

shareme 15y ago
Have you considered going through android market/developer relations instead of general support? If you google enough times you will find names and email and position titles(ie what areas of developer relations they handle) In fact there is a specific page listing all this stuff even..
- alohahacker 15y ago
  a good thing ive found because im facing the same issues is google and find memebers on the android team on google+/quora?twitter and let them know firsthand the problems this has seem to work for me and escalates the prob very fast! :)

ssutch 15y ago

It's not a game, it's a todo/shopping list that cost $5. It won't fair well on the Apple App Store as there are already 100's if not 1000's of those apps, many of which have been polished to a mirror finish.

masklinn 15y ago

> Release your game on the Apple market and let us know how well you do trying to get traction or downloads there. Considering it's a shopping/todo list and the apple store is already filled to the brim with high quality software in that space (it's always been one of the most crowded spaces in the store), unless they have something very, very compelling to offer I can't see it do much.

yalogin 15y ago

He was probably talking about the quality of shopping list apps when they were surveying the various market places. Its not necessarily an indication of the situation now.

angryasian 15y ago
well from what I can see his first review is in February of this year.

guelo 15y ago

Are you doing a reddit style performance based on your username? If so it is not funny or appropriate, if not I don't get why you're so aggressive and accusatory with your reply.

angryasian 15y ago
My only point is he is blaming google for everyone of his own failures. Rather than blaming google, do something productive about it. A lot of these issues have been known issues and if he did any sort of diligence would be fully aware of these by now. As I pointed out there are plenty of successes on the Google Market, and a lot of developers on doing very well on the Market itself. I welcome his advice for other developers to wait, that means more opportunity for developers that do want to develop on the Android marketplace.
- mmmarvin 15y ago
  Your point makes no sense. How is the fact that Google has horrible support his fault? How is the fact that Google isn't updating the stats his fault? How is the fact that Google changed the search algorithm his fault? > "A lot of these issues have been known issues and if he did any sort of diligence would be fully aware of these by now" Oh, so these are known issues now and not "his fault." Becoming "aware" of these issues doesn't make them magically go away. This issues are still on-going despite what Google's Known Issues page says. Whatever argument you are trying to make here you're doing a horrible job at it.
  - angryasian 15y ago
    no need to be argumentative, but again.. no one is telling you guys to develop for the Android Market, go do apps on the Apple market if all these things are so troublesome for your team. I imagine you can do search and see all these issues in the past, and rather ranting figure out how to work around it, theres actually been a lot of good suggestion in this thread, and I can see you continue to place the blame on Google. So what it is their fault.. they won't fix .. now do something about it. Believe me theres plenty of opportunity on the Android market for good apps. Second, working on any platform changes occur all the time.. example: Twitter and Facebook developers get screwed all the time, Apple just changed their subscription policy, Google changed their regular search algorithm to take down content farms.. Yes companies change their policies constantly its up to the developers to adjust or quit.

Gobiner 15y ago

You clearly did not read the posting you're commenting on. Nowhere does he say he made a game. Nowhere does he say he's never tried to find his own solutions. Nowhere does he say he hasn't done well. In fact he stated the opposite. He is no longer doing well because Google broke their own shit and don't seem to be in any particular hurry to address it. In case you missed it: Out of Milk went from doing extremely well to dead in the water almost overnight. We are working as hard we can to try and figure out solutions from our own end, but Google is the guy driving this bus and we can only do so much on our own. Google's market problems aren't app developers responsibility to overcome just because they are 'sort of known'.

angryasian 15y ago
"Google's market problems aren't app developers responsibility to overcome just because they are 'sort of known'." Ummm yes they are. When apple changes their policy for subscription, you either quit or adjust.. When twitter says no in stream ads to an ad company like ad.ly, they either quit or adjust, when facebook says no to an app that notifies users of changing relationship , you either quite or adjust... etc, etc.
- bond 15y ago
  Seems you don't develop for Android or you'll know google messed up the search algorithm and after a lot of complaints from developers and users who couldn't find apps, google started fixing things...
  - angryasian 15y ago
    Well I do, but my business is not reliant on being in the top google search results. I have nothing to brag about, or complain about, as like I've stated, everything he's said has been addressed prior.
    - bond 15y ago
      Well it seems you're mixing things up. Having a change in policy has nothing to do with bugs on the way the market performs. One thing is a shift in direction from Google and another is bugs that prevents developers and users from finding apps. On a other post you talk about marketing as if would make any difference. There's a lot of developers complaining users couldn't find their apps after they were told to look for them on the market. How would a marketing campaign solve this problem? It's Google's duty to provide developers and users with a reliable market experience.