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No and here is some reasons. There is something political but not scientific in situation with vaccines. For example, if I'll make and public a video of why I

No and here is some reasons. There is something political but not scientific in situation with vaccines. For example, if I'll make and public a video of why I do not want to take this vaccine, I'll get a ban on Youtube and Facebook. Another example, Russian vaccines are not counting as vaccines in Europe, wat? Btw I do not like travelling so I do not need a special permission to travel. Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. So, my choice is to wait. Btw, I am young and do not afraid this disease that much. Several of my neighbours have died from it, but all of them are 50+ and drunk driving has taken more lives of my friends for the last year and a half. Also I am so elusive that have managed to not catch a covid even when all of my roommates were sick :) Last but not least is that I think I am ready to face all the outcomes of not being vacced. Bored waiting for fourth wave and miss to see a crowd in sometimes really goureous masks.

celticninja 5y ago
>So, my choice is to wait Wait for what?
- eimrine 5y ago
  Maybe some vac manufacter will proclame he has a vac which is effective against all known mutations. Bill Gates has told in early 2020 that it is impossible to build a decent vac until late 2021. Maybe amount of vac in my country will end and I will regret for not being vacced. Maybe I will need to travel abroad and be forced to take a vac. Maybe I will catch a covid and die in sufferings depsite probability is low. I really ready to all possible scenarios and there is the only thing I want - I want _not_ to be in rush for doing what TV hurries me up to do.
  - celticninja 5y ago
    just because you are informed of something through the TV doesnt make it the TV that wants you to do it. Perhaps you are being informed through facebook/social media to not want it, have you considered that? At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Those on fb/socail media telling you you dont need it wouldnt know a peer reviewed study if it hit them in the face.
    - eimrine 5y ago
      >have you considered that? It is a wise point that my opinion might be nothing except my laziness and stupidity of my friends whose opinions I'm being influenced with. But anyway I am not interested to rush, do not have a desire to visit other countries and do not have needness to contact people offline (except few friends, neighbours and collegues). Maybe my main reason is that I do not think that it will be harder to get a dose tomorrow than today, and I am almost sure that tomorrow's vaccines will be more secure than today's. So, let all that rushers who is required to take a vaccine will be objects of experiment and I will be an observer. >At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Watching TV has some rules in our lands. For example, if a qualified and informed person tells that our local currency will grow very soon, everybody are going to banks asap for buying some Euro/Dollars and this is not a joke.
      - celticninja 5y ago
        Let me give you one of my reasons for getting the vaccine. We dont know much about the long term affects of the virus, except that in some people ther eis a long term affect. HIV infects people and you would barely know you have it until 10 years later and then bang, your immune system is failing. I dont want to find out that in 10 years coronavirus is fucking up something vital. If there was a HIV vaccine available today I would take it, even though my chances of infection are incredibly low, because the downside is massive and the vaccine risk is low. Same with coronavirus, perhaps its just a bit like flu, but I dont want to wait 10 years to find out i was wrong.
      - celticninja 5y ago
        I didn't mean that TV personalities are inherently trustworthy. The people advising to get the vaccine on TV here are chief medial officer etc, not some Oprah equivalent.
lm28469 5y ago
> There is something political but not scientific in situation with vaccines. For example, if I'll make and public a video of why I do not want to take this vaccine, I'll get a ban on Youtube and Facebook. "I don't want to take a vaccine because a private company bans me if I say I don't want to take it" How's that logical ? Also, source? > Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. So, my choice is to wait. Here is the deal, the more people get infected the more likely we are to get new variants. There are plenty of studies showing that all vaccines offer good to very good protection against every current variants. > Last but not least is that I think I am ready to face all the outcomes of not being vacced. All good then, be ready to pay out of your pocket for tests every time you want to go out, &c. > Another example, Russian vaccines are not counting as vaccines in Europe, wat? What do you mean?
- pndy 5y ago
  The case of authorization (and other issues) of Sputnik V is described on Wikipedia [1]. In short, they didn't deliver necessary documentation and clinical data on time. Some countries afraid that purchasing this particular vaccine supply will push them into political play with Russia; also, Slovakia's ŠÚKL, State Institute for Drug Control claimed in April that formula of vaccines delivered (they order these despite of EMA processing) differ from what was reviewed by the Lancet journal. Sputnik V is being approved in other countries around the world [2]. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine#Authorizations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine#Aut... [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_COVID-19_vaccine_authorizations#Sputnik_V https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_COVID-19_vaccine_autho...
  - lm28469 5y ago
    How's that a bad thing ? If they can't prove its efficiency and safety it shouldn't be used. That's a positive thing I must be missing the point.
    - eimrine 5y ago
garmaine 5y ago
> Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. This is absolutely not true. The vaccine make COVID—even the variants—a much less dangerous disease. It would be stupid not to take the vaccine if you might later be exposed to COVID in any form.
- Gibbon1 5y ago
  Not to mention vaccination reduces the opportunity for the virus to mutate.

celticninja 5y ago

>So, my choice is to wait Wait for what?

eimrine 5y ago
Maybe some vac manufacter will proclame he has a vac which is effective against all known mutations. Bill Gates has told in early 2020 that it is impossible to build a decent vac until late 2021. Maybe amount of vac in my country will end and I will regret for not being vacced. Maybe I will need to travel abroad and be forced to take a vac. Maybe I will catch a covid and die in sufferings depsite probability is low. I really ready to all possible scenarios and there is the only thing I want - I want _not_ to be in rush for doing what TV hurries me up to do.
- celticninja 5y ago
  just because you are informed of something through the TV doesnt make it the TV that wants you to do it. Perhaps you are being informed through facebook/social media to not want it, have you considered that? At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Those on fb/socail media telling you you dont need it wouldnt know a peer reviewed study if it hit them in the face.
  - eimrine 5y ago
    >have you considered that? It is a wise point that my opinion might be nothing except my laziness and stupidity of my friends whose opinions I'm being influenced with. But anyway I am not interested to rush, do not have a desire to visit other countries and do not have needness to contact people offline (except few friends, neighbours and collegues). Maybe my main reason is that I do not think that it will be harder to get a dose tomorrow than today, and I am almost sure that tomorrow's vaccines will be more secure than today's. So, let all that rushers who is required to take a vaccine will be objects of experiment and I will be an observer. >At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Watching TV has some rules in our lands. For example, if a qualified and informed person tells that our local currency will grow very soon, everybody are going to banks asap for buying some Euro/Dollars and this is not a joke.
    - celticninja 5y ago
      Let me give you one of my reasons for getting the vaccine. We dont know much about the long term affects of the virus, except that in some people ther eis a long term affect. HIV infects people and you would barely know you have it until 10 years later and then bang, your immune system is failing. I dont want to find out that in 10 years coronavirus is fucking up something vital. If there was a HIV vaccine available today I would take it, even though my chances of infection are incredibly low, because the downside is massive and the vaccine risk is low. Same with coronavirus, perhaps its just a bit like flu, but I dont want to wait 10 years to find out i was wrong.
    - celticninja 5y ago
      I didn't mean that TV personalities are inherently trustworthy. The people advising to get the vaccine on TV here are chief medial officer etc, not some Oprah equivalent.

lm28469 5y ago

> There is something political but not scientific in situation with vaccines. For example, if I'll make and public a video of why I do not want to take this vaccine, I'll get a ban on Youtube and Facebook. "I don't want to take a vaccine because a private company bans me if I say I don't want to take it" How's that logical ? Also, source? > Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. So, my choice is to wait. Here is the deal, the more people get infected the more likely we are to get new variants. There are plenty of studies showing that all vaccines offer good to very good protection against every current variants. > Last but not least is that I think I am ready to face all the outcomes of not being vacced. All good then, be ready to pay out of your pocket for tests every time you want to go out, &c. > Another example, Russian vaccines are not counting as vaccines in Europe, wat? What do you mean?

pndy 5y ago
The case of authorization (and other issues) of Sputnik V is described on Wikipedia [1]. In short, they didn't deliver necessary documentation and clinical data on time. Some countries afraid that purchasing this particular vaccine supply will push them into political play with Russia; also, Slovakia's ŠÚKL, State Institute for Drug Control claimed in April that formula of vaccines delivered (they order these despite of EMA processing) differ from what was reviewed by the Lancet journal. Sputnik V is being approved in other countries around the world [2]. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine#Authorizations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine#Aut... [2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_COVID-19_vaccine_authorizations#Sputnik_V https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_COVID-19_vaccine_autho...
- lm28469 5y ago
  How's that a bad thing ? If they can't prove its efficiency and safety it shouldn't be used. That's a positive thing I must be missing the point.
  - eimrine 5y ago

garmaine 5y ago

> Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. This is absolutely not true. The vaccine make COVID—even the variants—a much less dangerous disease. It would be stupid not to take the vaccine if you might later be exposed to COVID in any form.

Gibbon1 5y ago
Not to mention vaccination reduces the opportunity for the virus to mutate.