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Corruption maybe, the prisoners allegation is most likely to be false. I know some people working in similar projects through photography hobby (a group of amat

Corruption maybe, the prisoners allegation is most likely to be false. I know some people working in similar projects through photography hobby (a group of amateur photographers, I am mostly interested in landscapes). There are benefits working abroad, such as tax breaks, allowances and so on, it makes no economy sense to have prisoners. And I don't question their compensation as well, most of them work to support their families, that's the only reason they work.

codys 5y ago
If the state or employer is required or expected to supply additional benefits to people working abroad, the benefit to the state or employer in substituting workers with less ability (legally or otherwise) to claim or obtain those benefits is even larger than it might be in-country. (I'm ignoring the obvious issue of it potentially being less legally or politically easy to handle here as the parent comment does not mention these at all). It sounds like you have an anecdote about some people you know working on these projects, but the details that seem intended to imply that it's unlikely that _any_ people working these projects are Chinese prisoners actually imply the opposite.
- powerapple 5y ago
  I am talking based on my understanding of the Chinese system, and knowing people working in these construction companies abroad. The point I am making is that if it is a desirable job, it is not easy to pass on jobs to prisoners as the article suggested. Selling drugs may be more profitable, but you still prefer a developer job. You cannot apply logic that way. These are state companies, they are responsible for hundreds of thousands employees if not more, those people need jobs. And most jobs require training and expertises. Anyway, we are living in parallel worlds now. I am trying to chip in whenever I can.
saturn5k 5y ago
I really wanted to see if someone else mentions these allegations and with just a quick google search I found these 2 articles mentioning the exact same thing: http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Chinese-prisoners-used-as-labourers-in-developing-countries-19180.html http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Chinese-prisoners-used-as-lab... https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/11/111829/morocco-chinese-company-employs-prisoners-to-build-a-highway https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/11/111829/morocco-chin...

codys 5y ago

If the state or employer is required or expected to supply additional benefits to people working abroad, the benefit to the state or employer in substituting workers with less ability (legally or otherwise) to claim or obtain those benefits is even larger than it might be in-country. (I'm ignoring the obvious issue of it potentially being less legally or politically easy to handle here as the parent comment does not mention these at all). It sounds like you have an anecdote about some people you know working on these projects, but the details that seem intended to imply that it's unlikely that _any_ people working these projects are Chinese prisoners actually imply the opposite.

powerapple 5y ago
I am talking based on my understanding of the Chinese system, and knowing people working in these construction companies abroad. The point I am making is that if it is a desirable job, it is not easy to pass on jobs to prisoners as the article suggested. Selling drugs may be more profitable, but you still prefer a developer job. You cannot apply logic that way. These are state companies, they are responsible for hundreds of thousands employees if not more, those people need jobs. And most jobs require training and expertises. Anyway, we are living in parallel worlds now. I am trying to chip in whenever I can.

saturn5k 5y ago

I really wanted to see if someone else mentions these allegations and with just a quick google search I found these 2 articles mentioning the exact same thing: http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Chinese-prisoners-used-as-labourers-in-developing-countries-19180.html http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Chinese-prisoners-used-as-lab... https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/11/111829/morocco-chinese-company-employs-prisoners-to-build-a-highway https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/11/111829/morocco-chin...