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Ask HN: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

4 points by roschdal 5y ago

garmaine 5y ago
I already did.
celticninja 5y ago
I had the Astra zeneca and am glad I did. I know some people are resistant to the idea and i just say I don't understand it. When I was younger I needed a bunch of vaccinations to travel to certain countries and I, and I and many like me, took them without hesitation. I had vaccinations at school when I was younger and my children had vaccinations for childhood diseases. I really don't understand why people think this vaccination is any different to the many others that have been developed and used in my lifetime. I do not think they should be made mandatory, but people should expect that some things will require them to have them and not being vaccinated will limit them from undertaking some activities. If they are happy with that then by all means remain unvaccinated but don't assume you are being oppressed because you can't go on holiday or attend a sports event that requires it.
4x5-Guy 5y ago
Been there, done that, need the t-shirt...
- lucozade 5y ago
  Not gonna lie, I went for the sticker. Haven't been given a sticker since junior school sports days.
eimrine 5y ago
No and here is some reasons. There is something political but not scientific in situation with vaccines. For example, if I'll make and public a video of why I do not want to take this vaccine, I'll get a ban on Youtube and Facebook. Another example, Russian vaccines are not counting as vaccines in Europe, wat? Btw I do not like travelling so I do not need a special permission to travel. Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. So, my choice is to wait. Btw, I am young and do not afraid this disease that much. Several of my neighbours have died from it, but all of them are 50+ and drunk driving has taken more lives of my friends for the last year and a half. Also I am so elusive that have managed to not catch a covid even when all of my roommates were sick :) Last but not least is that I think I am ready to face all the outcomes of not being vacced. Bored waiting for fourth wave and miss to see a crowd in sometimes really goureous masks.
- celticninja 5y ago
  >So, my choice is to wait Wait for what?
  - eimrine 5y ago
    Maybe some vac manufacter will proclame he has a vac which is effective against all known mutations. Bill Gates has told in early 2020 that it is impossible to build a decent vac until late 2021. Maybe amount of vac in my country will end and I will regret for not being vacced. Maybe I will need to travel abroad and be forced to take a vac. Maybe I will catch a covid and die in sufferings depsite probability is low. I really ready to all possible scenarios and there is the only thing I want - I want _not_ to be in rush for doing what TV hurries me up to do.
    - celticninja 5y ago
      just because you are informed of something through the TV doesnt make it the TV that wants you to do it. Perhaps you are being informed through facebook/social media to not want it, have you considered that? At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Those on fb/socail media telling you you dont need it wouldnt know a peer reviewed study if it hit them in the face.
      - eimrine 5y ago
        >have you considered that? It is a wise point that my opinion might be nothing except my laziness and stupidity of my friends whose opinions I'm being influenced with. But anyway I am not interested to rush, do not have a desire to visit other countries and do not have needness to contact people offline (except few friends, neighbours and collegues). Maybe my main reason is that I do not think that it will be harder to get a dose tomorrow than today, and I am almost sure that tomorrow's vaccines will be more secure than today's. So, let all that rushers who is required to take a vaccine will be objects of experiment and I will be an observer. >At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Watching TV has some rules in our lands. For example, if a qualified and informed person tells that our local currency will grow very soon, everybody are going to banks asap for buying some Euro/Dollars and this is not a joke.
a0-prw 5y ago
If I have to travel, depending on the rules of the country I am travelling to, yes. Otherwise, no. Why? I am not anti-vax. Here are my three reasons: Emotional reason: The politics and media frenzy and the strident, aggressive nature of the "get vaccinated" crowd, which is largely the same people who advocated lockdowns have pissed me off. Personal reason: I have confidence I will weather an infection just fine. I am 55, reasonably fit, no comorbidities and not obese. In the last 8 years, I've had 4 days off work "sick" (they were all hangovers / still drunk after a late party). I'm a teacher so I get exposed to every cold and flu the kids get every year, but I don't get sick. "Political" reason: As a protest, I won't get vaccinated with a Western vaccine because Russian/Chinese vaccines aren't recognised in Europe, where I live(yet). What bullshit is that ?
- garmaine 5y ago
  > I'm a teacher so I get exposed to every cold and flu the kids get every year, but I don't get sick. As a parent my reaction to this is a severe WTF?! Our kids cannot get vaccinated, but they are forced to spend six hours with you every day. Your profession in particular makes your choice not just about you.
  - a0-prw 5y ago
    Whiny prick.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
- CarelessExpert 5y ago
  > Emotional reason: The politics and media frenzy and the strident, aggressive nature of the "get vaccinated" crowd, which is largely the same people who advocated lockdowns have pissed me off. No disrespect, but this is probably the worst reason to make any decision. Do you also reject good diet and exercise because of the "be healthy!" crowd? Do you reject antibiotics because of the "infections are bad!" crowd? > Personal reason: I have confidence I will weather an infection just fine. Everyone thinks that until they're on a ventilator. You're not special. No one is. Healthy 30 year olds have ended up dead. You may end up fine, you may end up in the ground, or you may end up with covid long-haul syndrome that leaves you permanently incapacitated. And that's ignoring the fact that if you get covid you'll spread it to others and endanger their health as well; people who might not be vaccinated because they have no choice due to health reasons (allergies, compromised immune systems, etc). Worse, as a teacher, you're exposed to children who would bring the infection back into their homes. Do you want to be the reason some kid's mother or grandfather dies from covid? It's not just about you. > "Political" reason: As a protest, I won't get vaccinated with a Western vaccine because Russian/Chinese vaccines aren't recognised in Europe, where I live(yet). What bullshit is that ? I don't know what this means, but if your first reason not to get vaccinated was silly, this is downright ridiculous.
rini17 5y ago
Had 2nd shot of Moderna 2 days ago. My family too, with pfizer/astra, no serious problems. Applied as soon as it was possible in my country, never really considered otherwise. All arguments against covid vaccines I encountered so far were either political or hoaxes. I find it absurd to risk my health and everyone I am in contact with, just to send some political message. Sadly there are too many people that are willing to.
- a0-prw 5y ago
  Sorry to disappoint you: "An outbreak of the Delta variant of COVID-19 in Israel has spread to some vaccinated people — with about half of the adults infected fully inoculated with the Pfizer shot, a health official said." https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/delta-variant-outbreak-in-israel-infecting-vaccinated-adults/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/delta-variant-outbreak-in-isra... So just because you're vaccinated presumably doesn't mean you can't still infect other people.
  - rini17 5y ago
    Nothing is 100%. But still, unvaccinated people are much more prone/infectious. Do you want to wait for bulletproof solution and just let people die in the meantime?
pndy 5y ago
At the moment I'm waiting for my second dose of Pfizer which comes in two weeks. Bit late tbh, but the company had issues. I've registered myself at local health clinic in January before state registration system was launched (tho my place in queue was transferred later) and got first shot on 7th of June.
CarelessExpert 5y ago
Got my second dose 10 days ago, AZ first, Pfizer second. I have neither magnetic skin nor better 5G reception. In fact, all I got was a sore arm--didn't even feel bad enough to take a day off work. I have to say, I'm deeply disappointed...
punchclockhero 5y ago
Second dose on Sunday. Glad I waited until the healthcare system got flooded with Pfizer, as I'm at risk of Astra-Zeneca side effects. Got it so I can travel later this summer.
pumpkinandspice 5y ago
Not at the moment. I’ve been struggling with this really hard but have decided to wait. I WFH, don’t really have contact with many people, have good hygiene and in generally good health. I’m in my early 30s and am looking to get pregnant this summer. The risk of GETTING covid first and then hospitalization or death in my age group is low. Taking the vaccine is a 100% event with a small % of side effects. The side effects can effect women (short term at the least) so I am not looking risk family planning. I have a young child but they are at even lower risk of developing problems from covid (shes healthy). I don’t have any underlying illnesses. As well, I’m not comfortable with the fact that THIS is the only way out of the pandemic. I’m waiting also on the ivermectin clinical trials (and others) to be “official” despite many studies have confirmed it reduces covid symptoms. Vaccines have become so political that I am with another poster here where I don’t want to be pressured to make a hasty decision on my health when I’ve done a lot of research and have taken my own risk based decision. Doesn’t mean I’ll never get it but everyone says to make a data driving decision and I’ve made mine on the data we have right now.

4 points by roschdal 5y ago

I already did.

I had the Astra zeneca and am glad I did. I know some people are resistant to the idea and i just say I don't understand it. When I was younger I needed a bunch of vaccinations to travel to certain countries and I, and I and many like me, took them without hesitation. I had vaccinations at school when I was younger and my children had vaccinations for childhood diseases. I really don't understand why people think this vaccination is any different to the many others that have been developed and used in my lifetime. I do not think they should be made mandatory, but people should expect that some things will require them to have them and not being vaccinated will limit them from undertaking some activities. If they are happy with that then by all means remain unvaccinated but don't assume you are being oppressed because you can't go on holiday or attend a sports event that requires it.

4x5-Guy 5y ago

Been there, done that, need the t-shirt...

lucozade 5y ago
Not gonna lie, I went for the sticker. Haven't been given a sticker since junior school sports days.

eimrine 5y ago

No and here is some reasons. There is something political but not scientific in situation with vaccines. For example, if I'll make and public a video of why I do not want to take this vaccine, I'll get a ban on Youtube and Facebook. Another example, Russian vaccines are not counting as vaccines in Europe, wat? Btw I do not like travelling so I do not need a special permission to travel. Also, there is no evidence that vaccine save me from any mutation of coronavirus. Would be stupid to take a vac and to catch a covid soon. So, my choice is to wait. Btw, I am young and do not afraid this disease that much. Several of my neighbours have died from it, but all of them are 50+ and drunk driving has taken more lives of my friends for the last year and a half. Also I am so elusive that have managed to not catch a covid even when all of my roommates were sick :) Last but not least is that I think I am ready to face all the outcomes of not being vacced. Bored waiting for fourth wave and miss to see a crowd in sometimes really goureous masks.

celticninja 5y ago
>So, my choice is to wait Wait for what?
- eimrine 5y ago
  Maybe some vac manufacter will proclame he has a vac which is effective against all known mutations. Bill Gates has told in early 2020 that it is impossible to build a decent vac until late 2021. Maybe amount of vac in my country will end and I will regret for not being vacced. Maybe I will need to travel abroad and be forced to take a vac. Maybe I will catch a covid and die in sufferings depsite probability is low. I really ready to all possible scenarios and there is the only thing I want - I want _not_ to be in rush for doing what TV hurries me up to do.
  - celticninja 5y ago
    just because you are informed of something through the TV doesnt make it the TV that wants you to do it. Perhaps you are being informed through facebook/social media to not want it, have you considered that? At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Those on fb/socail media telling you you dont need it wouldnt know a peer reviewed study if it hit them in the face.
    - eimrine 5y ago
      >have you considered that? It is a wise point that my opinion might be nothing except my laziness and stupidity of my friends whose opinions I'm being influenced with. But anyway I am not interested to rush, do not have a desire to visit other countries and do not have needness to contact people offline (except few friends, neighbours and collegues). Maybe my main reason is that I do not think that it will be harder to get a dose tomorrow than today, and I am almost sure that tomorrow's vaccines will be more secure than today's. So, let all that rushers who is required to take a vaccine will be objects of experiment and I will be an observer. >At least the people you see on the TV advising you get vaccinated are qualified, informed people. Watching TV has some rules in our lands. For example, if a qualified and informed person tells that our local currency will grow very soon, everybody are going to banks asap for buying some Euro/Dollars and this is not a joke.

a0-prw 5y ago

If I have to travel, depending on the rules of the country I am travelling to, yes. Otherwise, no. Why? I am not anti-vax. Here are my three reasons: Emotional reason: The politics and media frenzy and the strident, aggressive nature of the "get vaccinated" crowd, which is largely the same people who advocated lockdowns have pissed me off. Personal reason: I have confidence I will weather an infection just fine. I am 55, reasonably fit, no comorbidities and not obese. In the last 8 years, I've had 4 days off work "sick" (they were all hangovers / still drunk after a late party). I'm a teacher so I get exposed to every cold and flu the kids get every year, but I don't get sick. "Political" reason: As a protest, I won't get vaccinated with a Western vaccine because Russian/Chinese vaccines aren't recognised in Europe, where I live(yet). What bullshit is that ?

garmaine 5y ago
> I'm a teacher so I get exposed to every cold and flu the kids get every year, but I don't get sick. As a parent my reaction to this is a severe WTF?! Our kids cannot get vaccinated, but they are forced to spend six hours with you every day. Your profession in particular makes your choice not just about you.
- a0-prw 5y ago
  Whiny prick.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
CarelessExpert 5y ago
> Emotional reason: The politics and media frenzy and the strident, aggressive nature of the "get vaccinated" crowd, which is largely the same people who advocated lockdowns have pissed me off. No disrespect, but this is probably the worst reason to make any decision. Do you also reject good diet and exercise because of the "be healthy!" crowd? Do you reject antibiotics because of the "infections are bad!" crowd? > Personal reason: I have confidence I will weather an infection just fine. Everyone thinks that until they're on a ventilator. You're not special. No one is. Healthy 30 year olds have ended up dead. You may end up fine, you may end up in the ground, or you may end up with covid long-haul syndrome that leaves you permanently incapacitated. And that's ignoring the fact that if you get covid you'll spread it to others and endanger their health as well; people who might not be vaccinated because they have no choice due to health reasons (allergies, compromised immune systems, etc). Worse, as a teacher, you're exposed to children who would bring the infection back into their homes. Do you want to be the reason some kid's mother or grandfather dies from covid? It's not just about you. > "Political" reason: As a protest, I won't get vaccinated with a Western vaccine because Russian/Chinese vaccines aren't recognised in Europe, where I live(yet). What bullshit is that ? I don't know what this means, but if your first reason not to get vaccinated was silly, this is downright ridiculous.

rini17 5y ago

Had 2nd shot of Moderna 2 days ago. My family too, with pfizer/astra, no serious problems. Applied as soon as it was possible in my country, never really considered otherwise. All arguments against covid vaccines I encountered so far were either political or hoaxes. I find it absurd to risk my health and everyone I am in contact with, just to send some political message. Sadly there are too many people that are willing to.

a0-prw 5y ago
Sorry to disappoint you: "An outbreak of the Delta variant of COVID-19 in Israel has spread to some vaccinated people — with about half of the adults infected fully inoculated with the Pfizer shot, a health official said." https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/delta-variant-outbreak-in-israel-infecting-vaccinated-adults/ https://nypost.com/2021/06/27/delta-variant-outbreak-in-isra... So just because you're vaccinated presumably doesn't mean you can't still infect other people.
- rini17 5y ago
  Nothing is 100%. But still, unvaccinated people are much more prone/infectious. Do you want to wait for bulletproof solution and just let people die in the meantime?

pndy 5y ago

At the moment I'm waiting for my second dose of Pfizer which comes in two weeks. Bit late tbh, but the company had issues. I've registered myself at local health clinic in January before state registration system was launched (tho my place in queue was transferred later) and got first shot on 7th of June.

CarelessExpert 5y ago

Got my second dose 10 days ago, AZ first, Pfizer second. I have neither magnetic skin nor better 5G reception. In fact, all I got was a sore arm--didn't even feel bad enough to take a day off work. I have to say, I'm deeply disappointed...

punchclockhero 5y ago

Second dose on Sunday. Glad I waited until the healthcare system got flooded with Pfizer, as I'm at risk of Astra-Zeneca side effects. Got it so I can travel later this summer.

pumpkinandspice 5y ago

Not at the moment. I’ve been struggling with this really hard but have decided to wait. I WFH, don’t really have contact with many people, have good hygiene and in generally good health. I’m in my early 30s and am looking to get pregnant this summer. The risk of GETTING covid first and then hospitalization or death in my age group is low. Taking the vaccine is a 100% event with a small % of side effects. The side effects can effect women (short term at the least) so I am not looking risk family planning. I have a young child but they are at even lower risk of developing problems from covid (shes healthy). I don’t have any underlying illnesses. As well, I’m not comfortable with the fact that THIS is the only way out of the pandemic. I’m waiting also on the ivermectin clinical trials (and others) to be “official” despite many studies have confirmed it reduces covid symptoms. Vaccines have become so political that I am with another poster here where I don’t want to be pressured to make a hasty decision on my health when I’ve done a lot of research and have taken my own risk based decision. Doesn’t mean I’ll never get it but everyone says to make a data driving decision and I’ve made mine on the data we have right now.