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mRNA vaccines are not "hugely outperforming other technologies in COVID". Sputnik V has around the same efficacy after 1 dosis that Biontech has after 2. That's

mRNA vaccines are not "hugely outperforming other technologies in COVID". Sputnik V has around the same efficacy after 1 dosis that Biontech has after 2. That's 1-0 for Sputnik in my book.

jdthedisciple 5y ago
Aaaaand here come the downvotes from the adherents of the religion of mRNA Technology :D Scientific objectivity is LONG GONE! "With the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, protection against symptomatic COVID-19 was found to be 52% from 12 days after the first dose (immunity takes time to build). Protection then rose to 95% after the second dose." [1] "Vaccine efficacy, based on the numbers of confirmed COVID-19 cases from 21 days after the first dose of vaccine, is reported as 91·6% (95% CI 85·6–95·2), and the suggested lessening of disease severity after one dose is particularly encouraging for current dose-sparing strategies." [2] Dear mRNA-ists, how is 95 % after second dosis (mRNA) vs 91·6% after first dosis (non-mRNA) worth being called "hugely outperforming"? And I didn't even go into the severe side effects of mRNA vaccines (AZ: Blood clotting in brain and/or lung; Biontech: Myocarditis, Anaphylaxia) vs virtual absence of side effects in traditional vaccines. But how dare I point those out, that's heresy, right? :O [1] https://theconversation.com/covid-19-vaccines-why-its-important-you-get-your-second-dose-161940 https://theconversation.com/covid-19-vaccines-why-its-import... [2] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...
- nec4b 5y ago
  AZ is not a mRNA vaccine.
- jbrnh 5y ago
  Perhaps because of https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/28/russian-vaccine-behavior https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/28/ru...
  - astrange 5y ago
    Also the adenovirus in SputnikV is apparently actually infectious. https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1387397186372005893 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/13873971863720058...

mRNA vaccines are not "hugely outperforming other technologies in COVID". Sputnik V has around the same efficacy after 1 dosis that Biontech has after 2. That's 1-0 for Sputnik in my book.

jdthedisciple 5y ago

Aaaaand here come the downvotes from the adherents of the religion of mRNA Technology :D Scientific objectivity is LONG GONE! "With the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, protection against symptomatic COVID-19 was found to be 52% from 12 days after the first dose (immunity takes time to build). Protection then rose to 95% after the second dose." [1] "Vaccine efficacy, based on the numbers of confirmed COVID-19 cases from 21 days after the first dose of vaccine, is reported as 91·6% (95% CI 85·6–95·2), and the suggested lessening of disease severity after one dose is particularly encouraging for current dose-sparing strategies." [2] Dear mRNA-ists, how is 95 % after second dosis (mRNA) vs 91·6% after first dosis (non-mRNA) worth being called "hugely outperforming"? And I didn't even go into the severe side effects of mRNA vaccines (AZ: Blood clotting in brain and/or lung; Biontech: Myocarditis, Anaphylaxia) vs virtual absence of side effects in traditional vaccines. But how dare I point those out, that's heresy, right? :O [1] https://theconversation.com/covid-19-vaccines-why-its-important-you-get-your-second-dose-161940 https://theconversation.com/covid-19-vaccines-why-its-import... [2] https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

nec4b 5y ago
AZ is not a mRNA vaccine.
jbrnh 5y ago
Perhaps because of https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/28/russian-vaccine-behavior https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/04/28/ru...
- astrange 5y ago
  Also the adenovirus in SputnikV is apparently actually infectious. https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1387397186372005893 https://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/13873971863720058...