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I had this discussion with one of them. Their response was that "I am sure it happened sometime in history."

redis_mlc 5y ago
It certainly did, like the Eocene, so what's your point? What is your detailed plan, besides being smug about your incorrect superiority? Note that HN was almost entirely wrong about the corona lab leak theory and herd immunity for over a year, as well as the thinking that consumer 10 cent masks worked. Why do you think you know what you're talking about now, instead of simpy virtue signalling?
thewhitetulip 5y ago
Considering that I'm being downvoted to oblivion, I think that there are quite a few climate change deniers on HN, of all places. Wow.
- swader999 5y ago
  It's changing but not at a rate that will be of any impact to humanity. We've been warming since the last ice age.
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    https://xkcd.com/1732/ https://xkcd.com/1732/
    - swader999 5y ago
      https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Lev...
  - ehsankia 5y ago
    > It's changing but not at a rate that will be of any impact to humanity Yet here we are, with "once in a century" floods, fires, hurricanes and heat waves happening nearly every year in the past decade. Are you claiming these don't have "any impact on humanity"? > We've been warming since the last ice age. It has gone up and done over the centuries, but absolutely not at the rate that it has been (completely coincidentally) since the start of the industrial age. If you look at any graph of average temperature, there's a huge spike in the past few decades. When in history has there been a sudden spike like this in such a short period of time?
    - swader999 5y ago
      Look at the USGCRP Climate Science Special Assessment: Volume 1: Chapter 6: Temperature Changes in the United States https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/6/ https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/6/ Scroll down to figure 6.3. You can see that the 1920's to 1940's had more extreme heat events than any time since. Figure 6.4 is also useful to look at.
      - ehsankia 5y ago
        What about Figure 6.5? Why do you conveniently ignore that one which completely contradicts your point?
    - swader999 5y ago
      And look at the rate of sea level change since the last ice age: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Lev...
- MattGaiser 5y ago
  Tech attracts plenty of contrarians.
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    Climate change isn't convenient for the value of their stocks.
- connectsnk 5y ago
  I feel you. Did my part my upvoting your comment.
  - thewhitetulip 5y ago
    Thank you. I just don't understand how anyone can be blind to this obvious fact. Mind blowing.
- vardump 5y ago
  Sometimes it's enough just for the link to appear in some particular group on Facebook, Reddit, etc. for similar things to happen. Just give it some time. The reasonable ones will follow.

It certainly did, like the Eocene, so what's your point? What is your detailed plan, besides being smug about your incorrect superiority? Note that HN was almost entirely wrong about the corona lab leak theory and herd immunity for over a year, as well as the thinking that consumer 10 cent masks worked. Why do you think you know what you're talking about now, instead of simpy virtue signalling?

thewhitetulip 5y ago

Considering that I'm being downvoted to oblivion, I think that there are quite a few climate change deniers on HN, of all places. Wow.

swader999 5y ago
It's changing but not at a rate that will be of any impact to humanity. We've been warming since the last ice age.
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  https://xkcd.com/1732/ https://xkcd.com/1732/
  - swader999 5y ago
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Lev...
- ehsankia 5y ago
  > It's changing but not at a rate that will be of any impact to humanity Yet here we are, with "once in a century" floods, fires, hurricanes and heat waves happening nearly every year in the past decade. Are you claiming these don't have "any impact on humanity"? > We've been warming since the last ice age. It has gone up and done over the centuries, but absolutely not at the rate that it has been (completely coincidentally) since the start of the industrial age. If you look at any graph of average temperature, there's a huge spike in the past few decades. When in history has there been a sudden spike like this in such a short period of time?
  - swader999 5y ago
    Look at the USGCRP Climate Science Special Assessment: Volume 1: Chapter 6: Temperature Changes in the United States https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/6/ https://science2017.globalchange.gov/chapter/6/ Scroll down to figure 6.3. You can see that the 1920's to 1940's had more extreme heat events than any time since. Figure 6.4 is also useful to look at.
    - ehsankia 5y ago
      What about Figure 6.5? Why do you conveniently ignore that one which completely contradicts your point?
  - swader999 5y ago
    And look at the rate of sea level change since the last ice age: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Post-Glacial_Sea_Lev...
MattGaiser 5y ago
Tech attracts plenty of contrarians.
- SilverRed 5y ago
  Climate change isn't convenient for the value of their stocks.
connectsnk 5y ago
I feel you. Did my part my upvoting your comment.
- thewhitetulip 5y ago
  Thank you. I just don't understand how anyone can be blind to this obvious fact. Mind blowing.
vardump 5y ago
Sometimes it's enough just for the link to appear in some particular group on Facebook, Reddit, etc. for similar things to happen. Just give it some time. The reasonable ones will follow.