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That's horrible. Thanks for letting me know!

vtail 5y ago
Could you please clarify what do you think is horrible? Anyone can sue anyone in the US, for any reason, and allege a lot of bad things. It also true that cost of litigation is often much, much higher than a settlement - e.g. the 3 employee suing asked for $200k in damages, which I assume is just an opening offer. A reasonable lawyer can easily cost upwards of $500/hr, and require many, many hours of work even if the process never gets to the court. My close friend is been sued for ridiculous reasons by ex-partners. It already costed him $750k in legal fees,and although he is very likely to win the case, it’s expected to take another 2 years before the case is resolved, at which point he will be allowed to file for recovering his costs (easily anothe couple of years).
- Rantenki 5y ago
  It's not a mere allegation, they lost a similar suit about hispanic employees, and had a HUGE settlement ruling against them: https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-and-b-h-reach-43-million-settlement-national-origin-discrimination-case https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-and-b-h-reach-43-million-... They've been proven to discriminate, in a court of law. I'd give this new lawsuit the benefit of the doubt.
  - vtail 5y ago
    Thank you, this is important context I was not aware of, although to be fair, these events happened 10 years prior to the new case.
- DetroitThrow 5y ago
  >Could you please clarify what do you think is horrible [about an employee discrimination lawsuit]? I wonder why so many forum users frame statements they want to make as questions which challenge innocent comments.
  - gilrain 5y ago
    There is a term for it: JAQing off. Just Asking Questions. It's used to put forward a distasteful argument without actually standing behind it. As in, "Why are you getting heated? I'm not condoning [whatever], I'm just asking questions."
    - vtail 5y ago
      You may well think so, but I was asking an honest question. I don’t think it’s distasteful to doubt any allegations, esp. when missing some context, in this case, 10 years old judgement against B&H.
      - spoonjim 5y ago
        But you should probably examine why you were so quick to assume that the allegations were baseless.
        vtail 5y ago
        As I tried to point out, a mere fact that someone is suing someone is not enough to conclude anything about which side is right; that’s why I was asking someone who seemed to have more context. I’m not sure why people are reading too much into my honest question.

Could you please clarify what do you think is horrible? Anyone can sue anyone in the US, for any reason, and allege a lot of bad things. It also true that cost of litigation is often much, much higher than a settlement - e.g. the 3 employee suing asked for $200k in damages, which I assume is just an opening offer. A reasonable lawyer can easily cost upwards of $500/hr, and require many, many hours of work even if the process never gets to the court. My close friend is been sued for ridiculous reasons by ex-partners. It already costed him $750k in legal fees,and although he is very likely to win the case, it’s expected to take another 2 years before the case is resolved, at which point he will be allowed to file for recovering his costs (easily anothe couple of years).

Rantenki 5y ago
It's not a mere allegation, they lost a similar suit about hispanic employees, and had a HUGE settlement ruling against them: https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-and-b-h-reach-43-million-settlement-national-origin-discrimination-case https://www.eeoc.gov/newsroom/eeoc-and-b-h-reach-43-million-... They've been proven to discriminate, in a court of law. I'd give this new lawsuit the benefit of the doubt.
- vtail 5y ago
  Thank you, this is important context I was not aware of, although to be fair, these events happened 10 years prior to the new case.
DetroitThrow 5y ago
>Could you please clarify what do you think is horrible [about an employee discrimination lawsuit]? I wonder why so many forum users frame statements they want to make as questions which challenge innocent comments.
- gilrain 5y ago
  There is a term for it: JAQing off. Just Asking Questions. It's used to put forward a distasteful argument without actually standing behind it. As in, "Why are you getting heated? I'm not condoning [whatever], I'm just asking questions."
  - vtail 5y ago
    You may well think so, but I was asking an honest question. I don’t think it’s distasteful to doubt any allegations, esp. when missing some context, in this case, 10 years old judgement against B&H.
    - spoonjim 5y ago
      But you should probably examine why you were so quick to assume that the allegations were baseless.
      - vtail 5y ago
        As I tried to point out, a mere fact that someone is suing someone is not enough to conclude anything about which side is right; that’s why I was asking someone who seemed to have more context. I’m not sure why people are reading too much into my honest question.