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It does, because this is ultimately a discussion about allowing municipalities to operate their own broadband. The questions of whether the state and federal go

It does, because this is ultimately a discussion about allowing municipalities to operate their own broadband. The questions of whether the state and federal governments should be handing out grants to build out these issues would be separate legislative issues.

mbreese 5y ago
The article mentions that municipal broadband networks in Ohio are now explicitly banned from applying/receiving new rounds of state grants. That’s part of this package. > municipalities and electric cooperatives in the state do not have access to the proposed $250 million broadband expansion grant program that will be established
mattmanser 5y ago
This is getting a bit frustrating He literally said 'no tax pennies were spent'. They obviously were, what he wrote is factually incorrect, taxes are taxes, just because they didn't have to rise council tax is totally irrelevant. He also claimed "There is absolutely nothing about this service that is a hand out from the government". That is also completely WRONG if as he claimed they received state and federal grants. A lie. It is subsidised. i.e. You're completely wrong, the original poster woefully misunderstands taxes and grants if he's claiming no handouts and and taxes, please stop now. I think broadband should be a public utility, this has got nothing to do with my politics, it's simply pointing out the original comment is factually incorrect in its claims. His town's broadband was subsidised, it was built using tax payer pennies and it did require a handout.
- Talanes 5y ago
  Now you're just getting hung up on semantics, when the posters actual intended meaning was clear to several others here. If you want to go down that road, however, grant dollars are already allocated and could thus be considered already spent. Do you really want to be having an argument about what spend means?

mbreese 5y ago

The article mentions that municipal broadband networks in Ohio are now explicitly banned from applying/receiving new rounds of state grants. That’s part of this package. > municipalities and electric cooperatives in the state do not have access to the proposed $250 million broadband expansion grant program that will be established

mattmanser 5y ago

This is getting a bit frustrating He literally said 'no tax pennies were spent'. They obviously were, what he wrote is factually incorrect, taxes are taxes, just because they didn't have to rise council tax is totally irrelevant. He also claimed "There is absolutely nothing about this service that is a hand out from the government". That is also completely WRONG if as he claimed they received state and federal grants. A lie. It is subsidised. i.e. You're completely wrong, the original poster woefully misunderstands taxes and grants if he's claiming no handouts and and taxes, please stop now. I think broadband should be a public utility, this has got nothing to do with my politics, it's simply pointing out the original comment is factually incorrect in its claims. His town's broadband was subsidised, it was built using tax payer pennies and it did require a handout.

Talanes 5y ago
Now you're just getting hung up on semantics, when the posters actual intended meaning was clear to several others here. If you want to go down that road, however, grant dollars are already allocated and could thus be considered already spent. Do you really want to be having an argument about what spend means?