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There is an epic tv show to be made about underground freedom fighters in HK and what they do to subvert the gestapo. Just like there is a genre now of how diff

There is an epic tv show to be made about underground freedom fighters in HK and what they do to subvert the gestapo. Just like there is a genre now of how different groups tried to subvert the nazis, it’s pretty clear that China is the modern-day fascist state, where disagreeing with the official party line risks your career and possibly your freedom. The only permitted disagreement is whisper-networks, and the moment any speech rises above low-level chatter it’s subdued with the iron fist. Interesting times. Hard to believe in 2021 over a billion people live like this, so sad.

labster 5y ago
Disney won’t even make gay characters in their animated films, so they can make lots of China dollars. So good luck finding funding for your TV show to deeply hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.
- seibelj 5y ago
  I'm thinking in terms of 50+ years. The optimist in me thinks freedom-oriented people will win - eventually. But historically speaking the US is an anomaly, and the older I get the more impressed I am that people in the 1700's wrote the US constitution, considering every few decades serious threats to its core ideals erupt but are ultimately quashed. What's even more crazy is 2 years ago saying the comment I did about China would have made me worried about my tech career in America. But now, people who previously supported and defended China need to back-pedal lest they are called out for supporting human rights abuses in the name of profit. It reinforces my belief that you should have principles that you stick with in all situations.
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  Disney+ also got rid of Love Victor. now on Hulu we get at least some semblance of normative sexuality of queer people. though your comment sounds more like a threat, maybe just the standard CCP tinged thread though lol
- elevenoh 5y ago
  >So good luck finding funding for your TV show to deeply hurt the feelings of the Chinese people. 'to deeply hurt the feelings of Chinese people'... why would you say that? And why would you jump into assuming malice? This is what I see 10 year olds do when cranky.
  - ximeng 5y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_...
- strogonoff 5y ago
  Apple TV+ is claimed to have a policy to never do two things: hardcore nudity, and China. Report[0] by CBS gives hope that the industry is waking up. HBO announced a series about COVID in which they claim to not go soft on anyone, including the Chinese government. However, even presuming there is a channel that would be willing to air or stream the show, a series about HK freedom fight would be very hard to shoot in a realistic fashion. If it is to be released while the fight is ongoing, exposing actual people or even techniques that CCP doesn’t know about could very tangibly cost lives. Tangentially, such a show would give more ammunition for CCP’s propaganda that it’s the interference of the West that is causing the unrest (as opposed to Hongkongers themselves wanting freedom). The only way to shoot on location while the events are unfolding is if there’s solid trust between the participants and the crew that release will not happen in a way that would put individual fighters or the movement in even more of a jeopardy than there’s already. A mere contract is unlikely to be enough of a guarantee, given who they’re dealing with. There is a film about HK protests (banned in China, of course), but it mostly concerned itself with what was happening visibly on the streets. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgeRQkE3ED0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgeRQkE3ED0
elevenoh 5y ago
I'm wondering why this was downvoted. It certainly is a nightmare to think a billion people live under such a government.

labster 5y ago

Disney won’t even make gay characters in their animated films, so they can make lots of China dollars. So good luck finding funding for your TV show to deeply hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.

seibelj 5y ago
I'm thinking in terms of 50+ years. The optimist in me thinks freedom-oriented people will win - eventually. But historically speaking the US is an anomaly, and the older I get the more impressed I am that people in the 1700's wrote the US constitution, considering every few decades serious threats to its core ideals erupt but are ultimately quashed. What's even more crazy is 2 years ago saying the comment I did about China would have made me worried about my tech career in America. But now, people who previously supported and defended China need to back-pedal lest they are called out for supporting human rights abuses in the name of profit. It reinforces my belief that you should have principles that you stick with in all situations.
dillondoyle 5y ago
Disney+ also got rid of Love Victor. now on Hulu we get at least some semblance of normative sexuality of queer people. though your comment sounds more like a threat, maybe just the standard CCP tinged thread though lol
elevenoh 5y ago
>So good luck finding funding for your TV show to deeply hurt the feelings of the Chinese people. 'to deeply hurt the feelings of Chinese people'... why would you say that? And why would you jump into assuming malice? This is what I see 10 year olds do when cranky.
- ximeng 5y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_...
strogonoff 5y ago
Apple TV+ is claimed to have a policy to never do two things: hardcore nudity, and China. Report[0] by CBS gives hope that the industry is waking up. HBO announced a series about COVID in which they claim to not go soft on anyone, including the Chinese government. However, even presuming there is a channel that would be willing to air or stream the show, a series about HK freedom fight would be very hard to shoot in a realistic fashion. If it is to be released while the fight is ongoing, exposing actual people or even techniques that CCP doesn’t know about could very tangibly cost lives. Tangentially, such a show would give more ammunition for CCP’s propaganda that it’s the interference of the West that is causing the unrest (as opposed to Hongkongers themselves wanting freedom). The only way to shoot on location while the events are unfolding is if there’s solid trust between the participants and the crew that release will not happen in a way that would put individual fighters or the movement in even more of a jeopardy than there’s already. A mere contract is unlikely to be enough of a guarantee, given who they’re dealing with. There is a film about HK protests (banned in China, of course), but it mostly concerned itself with what was happening visibly on the streets. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgeRQkE3ED0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgeRQkE3ED0

elevenoh 5y ago

I'm wondering why this was downvoted. It certainly is a nightmare to think a billion people live under such a government.