Depends what you want to do, but I've kind of come around because I feel like if what I want to do is so complicated that I can't easily do it in vanilla JS, it

Depends what you want to do, but I've kind of come around because I feel like if what I want to do is so complicated that I can't easily do it in vanilla JS, it's also complicated enough that I don't necessarily want to do it by manual DOM manipulation. Changes the calculation if you have to support older browsers and such though.