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Welfare city. You are welcome.

by deregulateMed 5y ago

nwiswell 5y ago
And you're welcome for your welfare roads.
- JKCalhoun 5y ago
  Welfare fire department, welfare police.....
  - deregulateMed 5y ago
    I pay for these. The city didn't pay for the internet, I did.
- tick_tock_tick 5y ago
  That's hardly a fair comparison they are calling it welfare as the town in question didn't pay a cent to get it's own broadband.
  - thebradbain 5y ago
    And most small municipalities don't/didn't pay a cent toward the highway construction, either
    - deregulateMed 5y ago
      With the 50k I pay in taxes per year, I'm sure I can pay for toll roads.
      - deleted 5y ago
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- deregulateMed 5y ago
  What? My state pays more into taxes than we get out. And my high income is definitely what funds welfare.
  - stjohnswarts 5y ago
    That's part of the cost of living in a democratic and capitalistic country. You are free to move where taxes are lower.
    - habeebtc 5y ago
      I recommend the rugged beauty of Antarctica for anyone who believes "taxes are theft".
thebradbain 5y ago
What's wrong with welfare, "the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group" ? [1] https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/welfare https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng...
- tialaramex 5y ago
  I don't find anything to be wrong with this, I think it's a good idea. But millions of Americans don't like it. They should like to see others suffer as much as possible. An amazing insight by the modern Republican party was that a big demographic are so enthusiastic about the suffering of others that they will choose, eyes open, misery for themselves just to be assured that it's visited upon others. "Kick me in the head, but make sure to kick those people I don't like too" is more popular with swathes of Americans than "Don't kick anybody in the head" as a policy.
  - deregulateMed 5y ago
    This is silly. The concern is that government chooses winners and losers. I lose, you win. This isn't fixing global warming, this is giving some people discounted internet and leaving the rest of us with nothing. How should we decide who gets my taxes for Internet?
    - rualca 5y ago
      A government isn't picking who wins or loses if it builds a road or a sewer line. It is in fact providing infrastructure that benefits and improves the lives of all citizens. Why do you place greater importance on how a hypothetical business can in theory not be benefited by the government over the quality of life of all citizens?
      - dragonwriter 5y ago
        > A government isn't picking who wins or loses if it builds a road or a sewer line. Very often it is, quite deliberately. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3539889 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3539889
scrps 5y ago
I am with you, my issue is that 740 billion dollar a year drain on the the taxpayer known as the Department of Defense. We could just privatise it... Defense as a Service, think of the possibilities! /s

Welfare city. You are welcome.

nwiswell 5y ago

And you're welcome for your welfare roads.

JKCalhoun 5y ago
Welfare fire department, welfare police.....
- deregulateMed 5y ago
  I pay for these. The city didn't pay for the internet, I did.
tick_tock_tick 5y ago
That's hardly a fair comparison they are calling it welfare as the town in question didn't pay a cent to get it's own broadband.
- thebradbain 5y ago
  And most small municipalities don't/didn't pay a cent toward the highway construction, either
  - deregulateMed 5y ago
    With the 50k I pay in taxes per year, I'm sure I can pay for toll roads.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
deregulateMed 5y ago
What? My state pays more into taxes than we get out. And my high income is definitely what funds welfare.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  That's part of the cost of living in a democratic and capitalistic country. You are free to move where taxes are lower.
  - habeebtc 5y ago
    I recommend the rugged beauty of Antarctica for anyone who believes "taxes are theft".

thebradbain 5y ago

What's wrong with welfare, "the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group" ? [1] https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/welfare https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng...

tialaramex 5y ago
I don't find anything to be wrong with this, I think it's a good idea. But millions of Americans don't like it. They should like to see others suffer as much as possible. An amazing insight by the modern Republican party was that a big demographic are so enthusiastic about the suffering of others that they will choose, eyes open, misery for themselves just to be assured that it's visited upon others. "Kick me in the head, but make sure to kick those people I don't like too" is more popular with swathes of Americans than "Don't kick anybody in the head" as a policy.
- deregulateMed 5y ago
  This is silly. The concern is that government chooses winners and losers. I lose, you win. This isn't fixing global warming, this is giving some people discounted internet and leaving the rest of us with nothing. How should we decide who gets my taxes for Internet?
  - rualca 5y ago
    A government isn't picking who wins or loses if it builds a road or a sewer line. It is in fact providing infrastructure that benefits and improves the lives of all citizens. Why do you place greater importance on how a hypothetical business can in theory not be benefited by the government over the quality of life of all citizens?
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > A government isn't picking who wins or loses if it builds a road or a sewer line. Very often it is, quite deliberately. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3539889 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3539889

scrps 5y ago

I am with you, my issue is that 740 billion dollar a year drain on the the taxpayer known as the Department of Defense. We could just privatise it... Defense as a Service, think of the possibilities! /s