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I have a friend who works for 2u. the bootcamps just pump out bad devs. everything is taught way to fast, everything is glossed over, they are expected to learn

I have a friend who works for 2u. the bootcamps just pump out bad devs. everything is taught way to fast, everything is glossed over, they are expected to learn the majority on the own

aardvarkr 5y ago
Tbh what do you expect from a 3 month intro to web dev? You have 12 weeks so you spend a week learning HTML, a week learning JS, then CSS, SQL, etc. With that in mind, of course it’s pumping out bad devs, just like every other boot camp. I wish it were different but that’s what happens. What’s worse is they charge over $10K for the pleasure.
- laptop-man 5y ago
  theirs almost no focus either. html, css, js, react, mysql, Mongo, various apis, jquery, and there's more. I'd be surprised if any were hirable after the class
908B64B197 5y ago
At this point it's pretty well known bootcamps are not a great hiring pipeline. Unless you can get "grads" at a significant discount. There's a reason Lambda is so desperate that they will "loan" you someone for a month at no costs (the VCs pay for it!). [0] [0] https://lambdaschool.com/hire-fellows https://lambdaschool.com/hire-fellows
- rtpg 5y ago
  That is probably very bootcamp-dependent, I've found bootcamp grads have been very good. In particular, the fact that most grads have had "real jobs" elsewhere mean that they have good people skills/time management/actual sense of "getting things done" that vastly outweighs the skill imbalance. Hell of a lot easier to increase someone's React knowledge than it is to, like, fix how they interact with people.
  - 908B64B197 5y ago
    > I've found bootcamp grads have been very good. Which one? What was comp like for these new hires?
- jlund-molfese 5y ago
  Oh wow, “100+ of our US-based engineers have been hired just this year?” That’s significantly lower than you’d expect.

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I have a friend who works for 2u. the bootcamps just pump out bad devs. everything is taught way to fast, everything is glossed over, they are expected to learn

by laptop-man 5y ago

I have a friend who works for 2u. the bootcamps just pump out bad devs. everything is taught way to fast, everything is glossed over, they are expected to learn the majority on the own

aardvarkr 5y ago
Tbh what do you expect from a 3 month intro to web dev? You have 12 weeks so you spend a week learning HTML, a week learning JS, then CSS, SQL, etc. With that in mind, of course it’s pumping out bad devs, just like every other boot camp. I wish it were different but that’s what happens. What’s worse is they charge over $10K for the pleasure.
- laptop-man 5y ago
  theirs almost no focus either. html, css, js, react, mysql, Mongo, various apis, jquery, and there's more. I'd be surprised if any were hirable after the class
908B64B197 5y ago
At this point it's pretty well known bootcamps are not a great hiring pipeline. Unless you can get "grads" at a significant discount. There's a reason Lambda is so desperate that they will "loan" you someone for a month at no costs (the VCs pay for it!). [0] [0] https://lambdaschool.com/hire-fellows https://lambdaschool.com/hire-fellows
- rtpg 5y ago
  That is probably very bootcamp-dependent, I've found bootcamp grads have been very good. In particular, the fact that most grads have had "real jobs" elsewhere mean that they have good people skills/time management/actual sense of "getting things done" that vastly outweighs the skill imbalance. Hell of a lot easier to increase someone's React knowledge than it is to, like, fix how they interact with people.
  - 908B64B197 5y ago
    > I've found bootcamp grads have been very good. Which one? What was comp like for these new hires?
- jlund-molfese 5y ago
  Oh wow, “100+ of our US-based engineers have been hired just this year?” That’s significantly lower than you’d expect.