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I understand you're trying to use examples that seem clear to you, but you're begging more questions than you answer: >" You can get you own armed guards - but
by nickff 5y ago
I understand you're trying to use examples that seem clear to you, but you're begging more questions than you answer:
>" You can get you own armed guards - but you will still subsidize other people's police force."
Why? This is an especially open question in areas with large police forces and high crime rates, or histories of police abuse of power.
>"You pay taxes to provide a minimum service to all of the community, you can then take advantage of it or not - that's your prerogative."
Again, why? What's 'a minimum service to the community'? Do you mean public goods, or services that have positive externalities, or things that help the poor?
>"I pay for school taxes, but I don't have kids - should I get my money back?"
Maybe! Depends on your beliefs surrounding political authority and ethics.
Perhaps you might do better to point to your ethical framework, and highlight what it means with respect to municipal fiber.
- FactolSarin 5y agoPublic Schools aren't just benefiting people with kids. It benefits society (a society you and OP are members of). Getting rid of schools is like getting rid of the military. Maybe you feel like you don't personally benefit from it and you want your taxes back, but that's not how it works. Not should it. An ideal government functions to help the people not individual persons.
- nickff 5y ago>”Getting rid of schools is like getting rid of the military.” I see national defense and public schools as very different. Defense is a non-excludable, fixed cost, so-called ‘public good’. Primary and secondary education are not public goods, though they may be long-term investments (which defense is not). I am not saying that I ‘like’ or ‘dislike’ either, but they’re very different. >”An ideal government functions to help the people not individual persons.” I’ve never heard this argument before, could you please elaborate, or point to a good source for your “ideal government” ethical framework?
- 8note 5y agoDefense seems very excludable. If I've got a gun, I'm doing the defense by myself. No need to pay for aircraft carriers in the middle of the unpopulated ocean
- zarzavat 5y agoThere exist many countries where you do need armed guards. I've never once heard someone from one of those countries express the viewpoint that it is a desirable state of affairs. Ironically a functioning police service is a necessary condition for far-libertarianism to exist. It is a self extinguishing ideology.