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Compared to what other operating system(s)? wsl on windows 10 has been amazing to develop and work on.

croes 5y ago
Every other OS. It's full of legacy APIs and scrapped new APIs. Every release is like two steps one step forward, one step back and one two the side. Just because thousands of companies have written software and drivers for it, it's still existing. If it were released today it wouldn't stand a chance.
- bostonsre 5y ago
  Are you talking about developing for windows or developing on windows? I'm talking about developing on windows. I don't really care what the apis look like underneath it all. wsl on windows is a lot more intuitive to develop on when you have a target environment of linux compared to something like osx where its almost like linux, but not really at all.
azangru 5y ago
> wsl on windows 10 has been amazing to develop and work on. Now imagine how amazing it would be just on Ubuntu ;-)
- bostonsre 5y ago
  The problem is that not many IT departments support ubuntu. They are making lots of improvements to the UI and application management, but it can be cumbersome to get some applications working on linux. Having windows to install whatever gui apps you need or whatever other apps that aren't needed in linux, then having linux there to develop on has been pretty great. It's almost like a hybrid linux+windows operating system and not at all like running a vm on windows. e.g. this is in my .bashrc in wsl, it writes stdout to my windows clipboard: function cb () { powershell.exe -command "\$input | set-clipboard" } Windows gets tons of hate in our community, but I gave it a chance a couple years ago after being frustrated with osx and it has been amazing and I think a lot of people would come around to it if they gave it a chance. I am biased towards linux though since I'm an sre, so maybe that is why I never could quite get comfortable on osx. I really disliked having to learn how to do something once on a mac, then do that same thing again on linux to get something into production.
  - fomine3 5y ago
    For enterprise adoption of Ubuntu, Ubuntu 21.04 now start supporting AD Group Policy thanks to samba. I wonder how does it help.
notsureaboutpg 5y ago
WSL was slower than dialup internet last I used it...

Every other OS. It's full of legacy APIs and scrapped new APIs. Every release is like two steps one step forward, one step back and one two the side. Just because thousands of companies have written software and drivers for it, it's still existing. If it were released today it wouldn't stand a chance.

bostonsre 5y ago
Are you talking about developing for windows or developing on windows? I'm talking about developing on windows. I don't really care what the apis look like underneath it all. wsl on windows is a lot more intuitive to develop on when you have a target environment of linux compared to something like osx where its almost like linux, but not really at all.

azangru 5y ago

> wsl on windows 10 has been amazing to develop and work on. Now imagine how amazing it would be just on Ubuntu ;-)

bostonsre 5y ago
The problem is that not many IT departments support ubuntu. They are making lots of improvements to the UI and application management, but it can be cumbersome to get some applications working on linux. Having windows to install whatever gui apps you need or whatever other apps that aren't needed in linux, then having linux there to develop on has been pretty great. It's almost like a hybrid linux+windows operating system and not at all like running a vm on windows. e.g. this is in my .bashrc in wsl, it writes stdout to my windows clipboard: function cb () { powershell.exe -command "\$input | set-clipboard" } Windows gets tons of hate in our community, but I gave it a chance a couple years ago after being frustrated with osx and it has been amazing and I think a lot of people would come around to it if they gave it a chance. I am biased towards linux though since I'm an sre, so maybe that is why I never could quite get comfortable on osx. I really disliked having to learn how to do something once on a mac, then do that same thing again on linux to get something into production.
- fomine3 5y ago
  For enterprise adoption of Ubuntu, Ubuntu 21.04 now start supporting AD Group Policy thanks to samba. I wonder how does it help.

notsureaboutpg 5y ago

WSL was slower than dialup internet last I used it...