3 ms·

"You don't even know what the thing is yet." Sorry for the Social Network quote, I didn't like the movie, but I kept thinking about this line. Look at the suc

by dimitar 15y ago

"You don't even know what the thing is yet." Sorry for the Social Network quote, I didn't like the movie, but I kept thinking about this line. Look at the success of 4chan or IRC channels or Usenet groups or twitter (140 messages) or Facebook or the blogs or reddit or whatever. They are all different, groups form differently in each of them and they have attracted different types of people sometimes. Sometimes new technology goes in a new direction, sometimes and old one is rediscovered. You cannot really know sometimes who will adopt your site, especially if doesn't come with built in communities or a particular focus.

eykanal 15y ago
You make two different points. > "You don't even know what the thing is yet." That's a good point, and Google+ is likely to change significantly. They may make stuff way better as it progresses; who knows? > <the comments about 4chan, IRC, usenet, etc.> The difference is, only Facebook was successful in getting tens of millions of non-geek users to sign up and use it. If you're going to deviate from the Facebook model of users, sure, you may end up getting users (4chan has lots of users!), but not on the same magnitude and of the same diversity. Since in the end of the day it all comes down to "how much cash are these users worth?", the facebook model appears to be the one Google+ is trying to emulate, they better make sure it's as easy or easier to for non-geeks to socialize using their service. The complaint raised by the article is a good one.
mindcrime 15y ago
"You don't even know what the thing is yet." True, true. I'll admit to being a pretty big G+ fanboi so far, but there are definitely some things I'm hoping to see, both because I want them personally, and because I think they'll make the service more attractive to others. Personally, I'm hoping for: Something along the lines of shared circles / groups / google groups integration Content search for "stuff" in your stream. Integration of "sparks" with Google news (news alerts in particular) Better import / discovery tools. I'm still struggling to make sure I got all my old facebook contacts added to circles / invited / etc. Ability to collapse comments on a post in the Stream More control over which circles are currently active for the stream. I want "all but this one" or "these (3 | 4 | 5 |n ) only" etc. Nested Circles would be kinda cool. Deeper integration of G+ with Google Calendar, Google Reader, GMail, etc. Hashtags A quick way to navigate to / view / list all my comments Apps support using OpenSocial. Developer APIs I'm guessing we'll see some of that stuff, since a few of those are things that a lot of people seem to be asking for. If Google follow through and deliver, G+ is going to be very awesome.

by dimitar 15y ago

eykanal 15y ago

You make two different points. > "You don't even know what the thing is yet." That's a good point, and Google+ is likely to change significantly. They may make stuff way better as it progresses; who knows? > <the comments about 4chan, IRC, usenet, etc.> The difference is, only Facebook was successful in getting tens of millions of non-geek users to sign up and use it. If you're going to deviate from the Facebook model of users, sure, you may end up getting users (4chan has lots of users!), but not on the same magnitude and of the same diversity. Since in the end of the day it all comes down to "how much cash are these users worth?", the facebook model appears to be the one Google+ is trying to emulate, they better make sure it's as easy or easier to for non-geeks to socialize using their service. The complaint raised by the article is a good one.

mindcrime 15y ago

"You don't even know what the thing is yet." True, true. I'll admit to being a pretty big G+ fanboi so far, but there are definitely some things I'm hoping to see, both because I want them personally, and because I think they'll make the service more attractive to others. Personally, I'm hoping for: Something along the lines of shared circles / groups / google groups integration Content search for "stuff" in your stream. Integration of "sparks" with Google news (news alerts in particular) Better import / discovery tools. I'm still struggling to make sure I got all my old facebook contacts added to circles / invited / etc. Ability to collapse comments on a post in the Stream More control over which circles are currently active for the stream. I want "all but this one" or "these (3 | 4 | 5 |n ) only" etc. Nested Circles would be kinda cool. Deeper integration of G+ with Google Calendar, Google Reader, GMail, etc. Hashtags A quick way to navigate to / view / list all my comments Apps support using OpenSocial. Developer APIs I'm guessing we'll see some of that stuff, since a few of those are things that a lot of people seem to be asking for. If Google follow through and deliver, G+ is going to be very awesome.