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That's not really how it's going to go though. Just look at what your average person is able to accomplish with Excel. Your own example of the CEO becoming a C

That's not really how it's going to go though. Just look at what your average person is able to accomplish with Excel. Your own example of the CEO becoming a CTO can be used in every level and part of the business. Now the receptionist is building office automation tools because they can describe what they want in plain English and have this thing spit out code.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Just look at what your average person is able to accomplish with Excel. Approximately nothing. The average knowledge worker somewhat more, but lots of them are at the level of “I can consume a pivot table someone else set up”. Sure, there are highly-productive, highly-skilled excel users that aren't traditional developers that can build great things, but they aren’t “your average person”.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24791017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24791017 (HN: Excel warriors who save governments and companies from spreadsheet errors) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26386419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26386419 (HN: Excel Never Dies) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20417967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20417967 (HN: I was wrong about spreadsheets) https://mobile.twitter.com/amitranjan/status/1139449388072239104 https://mobile.twitter.com/amitranjan/status/113944938807223... (Excel is every #SAAS company's biggest competitor!)
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    Yes, Excel “runs the world”, and in most organizations, you’ll find a fairly narrow slice of Excel power users that build and maintain the Excel that “runs the world”. We may not call them developers or programmers (or we might; I’ve been one of them as a fraction of my job at different times, both as a “fiscal analyst” by working title and as a “programmer analyst” by title), but effectively that's what they are, developers using (and possibly exclusively comfortable with) Excel as a platform.
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- foobarbazetc 5y ago
  Well, agree to disagree here as I’ve seen it with my own eyes, but it’s kind of besides the point. Is it a coincidence that the same company that makes Excel is trying to… “democratize” and/or de-specialize programming? I don’t really think so, but shrug.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Just look at what your average person is able to accomplish with Excel. Approximately nothing. The average knowledge worker somewhat more, but lots of them are at the level of “I can consume a pivot table someone else set up”. Sure, there are highly-productive, highly-skilled excel users that aren't traditional developers that can build great things, but they aren’t “your average person”.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24791017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24791017 (HN: Excel warriors who save governments and companies from spreadsheet errors) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26386419 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26386419 (HN: Excel Never Dies) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20417967 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20417967 (HN: I was wrong about spreadsheets) https://mobile.twitter.com/amitranjan/status/1139449388072239104 https://mobile.twitter.com/amitranjan/status/113944938807223... (Excel is every #SAAS company's biggest competitor!)
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  Yes, Excel “runs the world”, and in most organizations, you’ll find a fairly narrow slice of Excel power users that build and maintain the Excel that “runs the world”. We may not call them developers or programmers (or we might; I’ve been one of them as a fraction of my job at different times, both as a “fiscal analyst” by working title and as a “programmer analyst” by title), but effectively that's what they are, developers using (and possibly exclusively comfortable with) Excel as a platform.
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foobarbazetc 5y ago
Well, agree to disagree here as I’ve seen it with my own eyes, but it’s kind of besides the point. Is it a coincidence that the same company that makes Excel is trying to… “democratize” and/or de-specialize programming? I don’t really think so, but shrug.