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I don't watch Fox News nor does this have anything to do with objective facts. I have left leaning friends there who run businesses and it's very well reported

I don't watch Fox News nor does this have anything to do with objective facts. I have left leaning friends there who run businesses and it's very well reported even by them.

tayo42 5y ago
its not an objective fact to say sf is full of needles. and its not an objective fact to say homeless people are there because of heroine or drugs. your repeating right wing nonsense by saying things like that
- busymom0 5y ago
  > your repeating right wing nonsense by saying things like that Please refrain from dismissing view points with ad hominem attacks "right wing nonsense". That doesn't further the discussion to anywhere productive and is equivalent to "she's a witch" from 1600s. You are not talking in objective facts. Ignoring the problem by yelling "La la la, I can't hear you!" and gaslighting people by claiming what they are seeing is not real and is some Fox talking point is not going to encourage those who are reluctant to make drugs legal to change their mind. There is a very serious problem with homelessness and needles/feces to the point where they literally have an app to report poop on the streets. Here's all left leaning sources: > 2018: Survey of Downtown San Francisco Reveals Trash on Every Block, 303 Piles of Feces and 100 Drug Needles https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/diseased-streets/166605/ https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/diseased-streets/16660... > NBC Bay Area Investigative Unit reported a 20m² 153-block downtown area it surveyed was littered with refuse. The team found discarded needles on 41 blocks and piles of feces on 96. In July, a major medical association canceled future events in the Golden Gate City because of its filthy streets. https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-needles-human-feces-1054010 https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-needles-human-feces-1... > 'It's raining needles': Drug crisis creates pollution threat in San Francisco, across US https://abc7news.com/needles-found-in-sf-left-on-streets-report-study-san-francisco/2226877/ https://abc7news.com/needles-found-in-sf-left-on-streets-rep... > EPA Issues Violation Notice To San Francisco Over Needles, Human Waste https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/10/02/epa-issues-violation-notice-to-san-francisco-over-needles-human-waste/ https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/10/02/epa-issues-viol... > Business Insider: San Francisco's dirtiest street has an outdoor drug market, discarded heroin needles, and piles of poop on the sidewalk. The block's homeless residents — including drug dealers, addicts, and the mentally ill — leave behind piles of feces and discarded needles. https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.businessinsider.com/san-franciscos-dirtiest-street-has-a-drug-market-and-piles-of-poop-2018-10 https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.businessinsider.co... > 'SnapCrap' app invites San Francisco residents to report poop on city streets https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SnapCrap-app-San-Francisco-poop-feces-dirty-street-13281837.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SnapCrap-app-San-Fran... Even this year's Academy Awards events had to clean up the homeless people before holding the event: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/homeless-ordered-out-of-la-s-union-station-ahead-of-academy-awards/ar-BB1g2Bon https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/homeless-ordered-out-of-la...
  - tayo42 5y ago
    I don't think you actually live in San Francisco so I don't think you really know what's going on. Homeless people congregate on one area where all these services are and then spill over to the tourist area. so it seems like it's crazy all the time. No one is going to write an article saying "normal day in Glen Park" witriing articles about needles gets clicks. So I think your confidently uninformed. Maybe listen to people who live there instead on forming opinions based off stuff you don't have experience with. You don't know about drugs and you don't know about sfs homeless situation and you don't know about the city. Your first article just focuses on the tenderloin. Homeless doesn't equal drug problems. There's way to much to unpack and set straight here.
    - busymom0 5y ago
      You clearly didn't read or intentionally ignored all my previous comments. I stated: > I have left leaning friends there who run businesses and it's very well reported even by them. CA has been the state which has lost population because people are fleeing the state and one of the reasons is "Filth": https://travelmedium.com/usa/california/why-are-people-leaving-california https://travelmedium.com/usa/california/why-are-people-leavi... I also stated I am very pro legalizing all drugs. I think you are being insincere on purpose because despite me presenting multiple left leaning articles which go against your narrative, you prefer to have blinders on. This discussion isn't worth going forward.
      - tayo42 5y ago
        Your muddying up the points, none of those issues are related to drug use. California has a lot of homeless people, a lot of those use drugs. Californias homeless problem is complicated and completely separate from drug use. Now your quoting articles about california as a whole. What your saying and the conclusions your drawing make no sense. Your also showing a misunderstanding of the nuances of san fransisco. Your own articles show that these problems are concentrated in historically problematic neighborhoods. Go back to the original quote i picked from you, it shows a complete lack of understanding of what is going on, and you cant form a coherent argument. Show me one article that says, sunset, richmond, bernal heights, glen park, excelsior, pacific heights, presidio, noe valley, balboa park are full of needles.

I don't watch Fox News nor does this have anything to do with objective facts. I have left leaning friends there who run businesses and it's very well reported even by them.

tayo42 5y ago

its not an objective fact to say sf is full of needles. and its not an objective fact to say homeless people are there because of heroine or drugs. your repeating right wing nonsense by saying things like that

busymom0 5y ago
> your repeating right wing nonsense by saying things like that Please refrain from dismissing view points with ad hominem attacks "right wing nonsense". That doesn't further the discussion to anywhere productive and is equivalent to "she's a witch" from 1600s. You are not talking in objective facts. Ignoring the problem by yelling "La la la, I can't hear you!" and gaslighting people by claiming what they are seeing is not real and is some Fox talking point is not going to encourage those who are reluctant to make drugs legal to change their mind. There is a very serious problem with homelessness and needles/feces to the point where they literally have an app to report poop on the streets. Here's all left leaning sources: > 2018: Survey of Downtown San Francisco Reveals Trash on Every Block, 303 Piles of Feces and 100 Drug Needles https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/diseased-streets/166605/ https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/diseased-streets/16660... > NBC Bay Area Investigative Unit reported a 20m² 153-block downtown area it surveyed was littered with refuse. The team found discarded needles on 41 blocks and piles of feces on 96. In July, a major medical association canceled future events in the Golden Gate City because of its filthy streets. https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-needles-human-feces-1054010 https://www.newsweek.com/san-francisco-needles-human-feces-1... > 'It's raining needles': Drug crisis creates pollution threat in San Francisco, across US https://abc7news.com/needles-found-in-sf-left-on-streets-report-study-san-francisco/2226877/ https://abc7news.com/needles-found-in-sf-left-on-streets-rep... > EPA Issues Violation Notice To San Francisco Over Needles, Human Waste https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/10/02/epa-issues-violation-notice-to-san-francisco-over-needles-human-waste/ https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2019/10/02/epa-issues-viol... > Business Insider: San Francisco's dirtiest street has an outdoor drug market, discarded heroin needles, and piles of poop on the sidewalk. The block's homeless residents — including drug dealers, addicts, and the mentally ill — leave behind piles of feces and discarded needles. https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.businessinsider.com/san-franciscos-dirtiest-street-has-a-drug-market-and-piles-of-poop-2018-10 https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.businessinsider.co... > 'SnapCrap' app invites San Francisco residents to report poop on city streets https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SnapCrap-app-San-Francisco-poop-feces-dirty-street-13281837.php https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SnapCrap-app-San-Fran... Even this year's Academy Awards events had to clean up the homeless people before holding the event: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/homeless-ordered-out-of-la-s-union-station-ahead-of-academy-awards/ar-BB1g2Bon https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/homeless-ordered-out-of-la...
- tayo42 5y ago
  I don't think you actually live in San Francisco so I don't think you really know what's going on. Homeless people congregate on one area where all these services are and then spill over to the tourist area. so it seems like it's crazy all the time. No one is going to write an article saying "normal day in Glen Park" witriing articles about needles gets clicks. So I think your confidently uninformed. Maybe listen to people who live there instead on forming opinions based off stuff you don't have experience with. You don't know about drugs and you don't know about sfs homeless situation and you don't know about the city. Your first article just focuses on the tenderloin. Homeless doesn't equal drug problems. There's way to much to unpack and set straight here.
  - busymom0 5y ago
    You clearly didn't read or intentionally ignored all my previous comments. I stated: > I have left leaning friends there who run businesses and it's very well reported even by them. CA has been the state which has lost population because people are fleeing the state and one of the reasons is "Filth": https://travelmedium.com/usa/california/why-are-people-leaving-california https://travelmedium.com/usa/california/why-are-people-leavi... I also stated I am very pro legalizing all drugs. I think you are being insincere on purpose because despite me presenting multiple left leaning articles which go against your narrative, you prefer to have blinders on. This discussion isn't worth going forward.
    - tayo42 5y ago
      Your muddying up the points, none of those issues are related to drug use. California has a lot of homeless people, a lot of those use drugs. Californias homeless problem is complicated and completely separate from drug use. Now your quoting articles about california as a whole. What your saying and the conclusions your drawing make no sense. Your also showing a misunderstanding of the nuances of san fransisco. Your own articles show that these problems are concentrated in historically problematic neighborhoods. Go back to the original quote i picked from you, it shows a complete lack of understanding of what is going on, and you cant form a coherent argument. Show me one article that says, sunset, richmond, bernal heights, glen park, excelsior, pacific heights, presidio, noe valley, balboa park are full of needles.