> it is (at least with the people i know) considered ab-so-lu-tely rude to even get your phone out Whereas with people I know, it's not because / people have k

> it is (at least with the people i know) considered ab-so-lu-tely rude to even get your phone out Whereas with people I know, it's not because / people have kids|partners they check in with / people sometimes just don't have the energy for constant peopling and the phone is a brief respite / people are sysadmins|on-call and get occasional blip warnings / people are checking on something to answer a question / etc.